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friendlyfamine on 29 May 2017
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Soundwave said:
friendlyfamine said:

There are pretty much over 10 reasons the Wii U failed. Collectively, those lead to its fate. Marketing was obviously an issue but diehard fanboys sometimes claim that it was just marketing (because y'know, the Wii U has the best games!)...just Nintendo couldn't advertise it!

At this point, people need to realize third party > first party. If this wasn't the case the Xbone would've never outsold the Wii U. The fact that Nintendo failed to deliver a proper Animal Crossing, bring Pokemon, get a good Zelda ontime, have a groundbreaking 3D Mario...all hurt it in the long run aswell. They only nailed it with Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon (but it came too late). Smash was on the 3DS which gave people a reason to not buy a Wii U

Animal Crossing, Zelda, Pokemon weren't even one of the top 12 selling Wii games. 

Wii Sports, Mario Kart Wii, Wii Sports Resort, New Super Mario Bros, Wii Play, Wii Fit, Wii Fit Plus are the best selling Wii games. Mario & Sonic Olympics sold the same as Twilight Princess basically on the Wii and more than Animal Crossing, lol. 

When the casual/mini-game fad bubble burst .... Wii U/Wii 2/Wii HD/Wii Super Duper was screwed no matter what. 

One thing that gets overlooked too is Nintendo utterly failed after Wii Fit to create another casual hit break through that was genuinely new. Wii Music underperformed big time, Vitality Sensor never came out, Nintendogs + Cats sold a tiny fraction of Nintendogs ... the warning signs were all over the map that Nintendo had no control/no insight into the own audience they had birthed. 

A fad-based console trend was always going to have an ugly downside. I mean yes, Nintendo made a bunch of dumb errors on top of that, but the central problem was always going to be a huge problem even if Wii U had say a better 1st year lineup or better TV commercials. 

You obviously knew what I meant. Even then, your logic is contradicting. Just as the Wii was a fad, the top-selling games were ALSO a fad. Notice how 90% of the Wii games you mentioned had "Wii" in the title, a part of the brand recogniztion. When the likes of Wii Sports and Wii Fit had their iteration on the Wii U, they failed. FAD intensifies.

Doesn't mean the Wii U would've still failed as miserably as it did with Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Zelda...you know? Games with established fanbases? Pokemon never sold well on the Wii simply because it didn't get a proper game on the Wii. Animal Crossing sold decently enough to warrant the title of being a system seller. Historically the series has set records. Zelda? Always been the critic's sweetheart. Didn't sell on the Wii based on it being overshadowed with the casual audience it attracted, who weren't gamers.

It would be pretty ignorant to claim that Pokemon wouldn't sell on the Wii U if it got a traditional game. Just like Minecraft, there are plenty of Pokemon exclusive fans, who would buy a Wii U just to play it.