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Teeqoz on 28 May 2017
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outlawauron said:
etking said:

Without the USA and US-funded Nato, Europe is completely unable to defend itself from the smallest attacks. Crimea-style takeovers could happen again, especially in Northern or eastern Europe.

So the USA should simply end Nato and stop protecting Europe. This would force them to protect themselves. Leftist governments want to reduce military spending instead. In a war situation, this could be the end of their country.

Well, if the other countries did spend what they agreed to, then the US could viably withdraw a lot of their own spending. The US does want to have a influence in the region to prevent as much inter-EU conflict as possible.

Viably, the US could already withdraw a lot of their own spending on military, and I hope for the sake of the American people that they do, and rather focus spending on things that benefit the American people.

I also do hope that my own country, Norway, steps up to meet the 2% demand, and given that the largest parties on both the left and the right (no, this isn't a left vs right issue, opinions are very divided on both sides) are in favour of this, it seems likely that this will happen at least in Norway. But I also hope more precautions are taken to avoid creating situations like Libya and Syria, where NATO stepped in, presumably with good intentions, but ended up creating a power vacum that destabilized the entire region.

EDIT: Just to further stress that this isn't a left vs right issue (and no Outlaw, this isn't directed specifically at you, just in general), the current secretary general of NATO was the prime minister of Norway in the last period, and the leader of the labour party before he stepped down to become the secretary general of NATO. Certainly a man from the left, especially by international standards (he is as much a "socialist" as Bernie Sanders).