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NATO said:
Azzanation said:

How about credit them for bringing the PC gaming ecosystem to consoles? Huge online Multiplayer games, harddrives, proper internet etc. They have done alot to the console marker where as Sony normally just take what Nintendo and MS bring to the table and try to refine it.

MS always lose? Amazing how there considered as one of the most successful companies in the world. I didnt know success happens when you lose all the time.

Isnt Direct X the most used gaming API in the world? Oh wait it is..

I'll credit them all day long for doing things like standardizing the addition of ethernet ports and hard drives, rather than them being optional additions (ps2 hdd/network adapter, dreamcast BBA), but huge online multiplayer games was something Microsoft co-opted from gamespy.

As for Sony taking whatever Nintendo/MS have done and trying to refine it, don't you mean Microsoft saw the success of the PlayStation 1 and felt threatened, releasing the Xbox in response to it? (as history has well documented).

And yes, in the console gaming sphere, MS have always lost. Name a single Microsoft console that has been the top selling platform? (Hell, name a single Microsoft console that didn't end a generation with the lowest worldwide sales).
As for DirectX, yes it indeed is, now. but when talking about the success of Valve with Steam, you have to look at the window between Steams launch and success, a time in which the majority of games used other pipelines in addition to, or exclusively from, DirectX.

Crediting Microsoft for their API's current status, for the success of software that became successful, 15 years ago is myopic.

Whether you like it or not, Microsoft's Xbox platform has lost it's way, be it a combination of terrible PR and planning or the fact that they wasted money on, and tried to push, Kinect not once, but twice, and now survive in the console gaming market largely on the backs of diehard fans and their fast aging franchises.

Nintendo and Sony are simply better at making gaming devices and games in general.

No. Xbox hasnt had the most sales in a generation however there 360 was more successful than the PS3. It gave Xbox a third of the gaming revenue, it was selling at its best prices, it was cheaper to make, and it was a developers dream *cough Cell*

To say the PS3 was more successful on its last couple of years is sad. MS stopped focusing on there 360 for there XB1 and saving there games for there next launch eg Forza 5. Its like if Xbox decided to keep the OG xbox on the market for 20 years and it outsold the PS2 its not what i consider being more successful. 

So for Sony making better games and systems? Very debatable. Both Sony and Nintendo cant compete with Xboxs strenght. There online network, there controllers, Xbox has the better FPS franchise etc. Sure Sony and Nintendo have there strenghts too. 

As for hardware? Well the OG Xbox and 360 says otherwise.