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PAOerfulone said:

1. Detroit - Just like how Horizon moved a bunch of units. Oh wait... And just like Horizon, it will be extremely frontloaded the first two weeks and then fall off a cliff afterwards.

2. God of War - It will sell PS4's but not to the amount of Switches that Mario will sell or maybe even Splatoon 2 for that matter. God of War 3 sold around 5 million on the PS3, wheras Splatoon 1, a new IP, sold close to that ON THE WII U. If a NEW IP sold that much on a system that flopped as badly as the Wii U did, imagine how it will do on a system that is actually selling great and has a strong fanbase and reputation behind it, ESPECIALLY in Japan, where handhelds reign supreme AND is Splatoon's biggest market. So, I wouldn't give that victory to God of War 4 just yet. Red Dead Redemption 2 is also available on Xbox One and PC.

3. Spider-Man - Is 'wait and see' depending on marketing and quality, so I agree with you there. As far as being the most popular superhero goes, that's another can of worms I don't want to step into, (though he's certainly MY favorite).

4. Elder Scrolls and GTA - Elder Scrolls, sure. GTA - I honestly think Rockstar is saving that one for PS5 and Xbox.... Two.... launch. They saw how much money they made with GTA V by launching it just before the new consoles on the old systems, and then releasing it year later. So, the sales will be huge upon launch, but then it cut off when the newer versions are announced.

4. Gran Turismo - Based on what Yamauchi says here: https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-sport-could-have-been-called-gt7-sport/ 
"For me, Gran Turismo Sport is Gran Turismo 7. Gran Turismo Sport is something that marks the beginning of a new generation or era. When you consider Gran Turismo 1-6 as the first era, GT Sport marks a new generation moving forward.” Sounds like Sport IS 7. 

5. FIFA, Star Wars, Call of Duty - All of those games sell around the same amount of copies every year. (Infinite Warfare is actually significantly down compared to Black Ops 3. FIFA 16 and 17 actually sold less overall than FIFA 15). And those games come out close to or around the holiday season, where EVERYTHING sells huge numbers. People who wanted the system for those games most likely have already got one and are just patiently waiting for the next one to come out. In FIFA's case, there may very well be a noticeable boost next year because of the World Cup, but after that, there's nomore hardware for FIFA to sell.

6. PS4 Pro - The New 3DS didn't exactly help the 3DS in the long run, the system has still been dropping year over year despite its launch. When the DSi launched in 2009, the DS was STILL down year over year, albeit slightly, compared to 2008, before it started dropping noticeably when the 3DS was announced. The same will exact thing will happen whenver the PS5 is revealed. And the PS4 was down last year compared to 2015 despite not 1, but 2, hardware revisions. Pro will take the PS4's place like you said and keep sales strong, but on the other hand, whose to say the Switch won't get a hardware revision itself. (It's all but guaranteed really).

1. How is it extremely frontloaded if it still sells 50K+ a week 6 weeks after it launched and is still the top selling game in Europe, besides what's stopping Horizon from selling way more than Splatoon. Since Horizon is  defenitly helping to hold the sales this high in Europe. Just because a game doesn't sell in the US it doesn't mean it doesn't sell at all. Uncharted 4 also sold way better in Europe before the holidays, but that turned around quickly during the holidays. Don't be surprised if the same thing happens for Horizon in combination with the PS4 pro and a pricecut this holiday. 

2. God of War has a way bigger and global appeal if Sony play their cards right. God of War will be much like Uncharted 4 when it comes to sales. it can be a huge game in Europe and in US. Besides when God of War is released the PS4 has a way bigger userbase than when God of War III released. Many PS4's don't sell on the day a big PS4 exclusive or game is released but on the promise that it is released. The system isn't in it's infant years anymore and has a base of 200K a week. Whether a game releases or not has little influence on the sales, except when it is an Uncharted, GTA V, RDR 2, Gran Turismo or The last of Us. 

4. I agree with both btw and I also predict TES will help moving plenty of PS consoles and it's longlivety to stay relevant. GT sport will help pushing a few 100k's of consoles extra in Europe. The first GT (except prologue's) on a PS console in general pushes hardware and sells around 10 million. 



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