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Aeolus451 on 23 May 2017
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Eagle367 said:
Aeolus451 said:

Tell me how did the survey get the opini of Palestine where Israel continually bombs hospitals and schools there? How do you conduct an accurate survey in a literal war zone would you care to elaborate? Lebanon is  another place as well as Nigeria where I seriously question the accuracy of these surveys. Plus in each country the most you could have surveyed is a couple thousand people so still not the millions you tout. I mean I am in Pakistan and I've never even heard of such a survey ever being conducted. Plus I thought we were talking about the ideology of Islam here not the thought process of Muslims? In Islam even doing harm to your body is considered haram for most sects. Suicide is not in any way appropriate especially for the ideology of Islam which shuns it.

Aeolus451 said:

Well the point of it was to dispell the myth that there's only a few thousand islamic terrorists. Out of a religion of 1.2 billion, there's likely millions of extremists within the religion around the world. I'm not saying the whole religion is like that but a good portion of it is.

I can understand why muslims try to hide or convince others that is not true. No group likes to admit that they have more than few bad apples in them but the left for some reason is trying to obscure the whole truth about Islam. I also don't understand why they're against vetting them much more than we do now. Here's some data on this that is also just as disturbing. 

 

The most interesting parts of these are the "favorable" and "don't know" percentages. 

Let's see Israel terrorizes Palestine and hamas fights back so hamas is a terrorist while Israel is not. Of course when you include hamas which are generally considered freedom fighters of Palestine to Muslims around the world unlike how the west sees them as terrorists you are going to get mixed results. Also of note the better the condition of a country the less it seems to even care about the subject and rejects it. Plus these surveys are at best conducted for thousands of people not millions so they do not represent the majority or the percentage they show cause the way you ask stions and the people you ask them from influence results. And no way in hell shitty places or literal war zones like Palestine, Lebanon and Nigeria can be places for accurate surveys

Take it up with them. They're respected internationally and used as a source on statistics by news organizations across the world.

I'm just tired of people trying to obscure the whole truth about it intentionally or through sheer ignorance. 

Here's the thing. If muslims are serious about getting along with the rest of the world, they need to reform the religion, they can't do that without being honest about a certain sizable portion of it's believers that world has the problem with and helping everyone in dealing with them.