Will the Console Market Grow in the 9th Generation?

[KBG29]

abronn627 said:

KBG29 said:
If the Consoles and Handhelds grow, then the market will grow, if they go more niche, and do not offer basic hardware and OS features the market will shrink.

If all three manufacturers expand their ecosystems to portable and mobile devices, then there is a huge oppertunity for growth. I also see a massive growth potential with VR as long as it is not restricted to just games and entertainment.

All three manufacturers are in good position right now. They are building scalable platforms and ecosystems which should allow them to grow. Expanding beyond the static hardware, and traditional form factors have the potential to bring gaming hardware back to the levels it was at in gen 7 or very likely even greater levels. It all rests in how much money and marketshare each company wants. Hopefully, they all have the goal of being number 1.

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand how you can believe that they can grow by pushing phone version of their product in an already oversaturated market with no place for new competitors. I've been reading theses threads for months and this idea of your's  to have a Switch phone or Playstation Phone doesn't make sense.

Sony already tried pushing games with the Xperia brand and they failed. We can even argue that the Vita has been more affected by mobile devices than 3DS, wich lifetime sales won't be far off from the GBA. Switch is selling well because it does one thing really well, playing games. Sony did the same thing, instead of pushing their hardware with feature like talking to your TV to change channel, they focused on the games. On Vita, they marketed it like a platform that can do everything, but why as a consumer would I buy an other product that can do everything ?

So no, they don't want to fight the big players on the phone market and you don't want them too. The future of gaming is not in the phone market.

The future of gaming is Play Anywhere and VR. People want access to their content on all of their devices, whether they are connected or not. It is just a matter of who offers this first. If you can get full Madden, Call of Duty, Destiny, ect. on Android and iOS for home, mobile and VR, you can bet your ass that PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo will be left out in the cold. 

Sony has absolutely never pushed gaming with Xperia. They have never made a single product that unified Phones and Consoles. Vita was the closest, but it was stripped of its cellular capabilities to focus on Xperia slab phones. Xperia Play had 'Zero' support from Sony developers, and 'Zero' connection to PlayStation Network. We have never seen a Phone/Handheld with full access to PSN, and full development support of Sony 1st party and 3rd party development.

Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo can gain massive marketshare if they continue to expand on the idea of what a console or handheld can do. If they open up their ecosystem to non gaming and non entertainment apps, they can compete head to head with anyone on the market. On the other hand, if they fall back into the gaming only role, they will get stream rolled by Google and Apple, because they will not hesitate to go after the gamer once they start to see growth in other areas slow down. 

I absolutley want all three major gaming manufactures to go after Apple and Google. I don't like the way Apple and Google have ran the phone industry, and I absolutely don't want to see the come into the gaming market unattested. Gaming is my passion, and have no interest in Google and Apple coming in and crippling it the same way they have crippled the mobile industry.