LipeJJ said:
Délio, sorry to get into this discussion, but I'd like to list some things you might not have thought of yet. Since you're comparing games like New Super Luigi U and Game & Wario to Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart, I assume you're talking strictly about numbers of games released on the first year and not about quality or sales/success, right? With that out of the way, take something into consideration: Nintendo always reveals games for the current year on E3s and/or Nintendo Directs, so we can definitely expect the numbers of games releasing this year to increase. Now, I particularly don't expect them to announce much more left for 2017, I believe they will in fact reveal some games for 2018, but that doesn't matter, anyway what I'm saying is... there will definitely be at least 1 or 2 new game(s) announced for this year, even if they are smaller games like Game & Wario. For starters, there are many solid rumors about a Mario vs Rabbids being revealed at E3 and releasing either on August or September. So, for this year we have: Zelda, Mario Kart, Arms, Splatoon 2, Mario vs Rabbibs (very likely), Fire Emblem Warriors, Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2, plus whatever the hell they announce at E3 or other directs. Even if they delay Xenoblade to early 2018, which is likely, we still have 7 exclusive games + probably some other announced this E3 for the 1st year. Not not mention this list includes games that are both better quality wise as well as sales wise. I really think it's an amazing 1st year line up. On the 2018 matter, like I said, Xenoblade 2 will probably be delayed to 2018 (at least it's what most people think). And then we have Fire Emblem confirmed. At this point, all they have to do is literally to announce 2 games for next year for it to look bright. I mean, we're still 7 months away of it, and if they announce those games, we'll already have 4 exclusives listed for 2018 while still being very far from it. They will, of course, announce new games as months go by and that number will increase. |
No problem in stating your views. It's a forum, after all.
You are correct. i'm only speaking in term of quantity, not quality.
To be more precise, the quantity of 1st party efforts.
To give a bit of context, one of the main Wii U problems was the lack of the games from Nintendo themselves.
Yes, it's true that a lot of mistakes from the Wii U era seem corrected (marketing, console concept), this one in particular is, from my point of view, not corrected.
When i compare Nintendo's 1st party efforts for Switch and Wii U, in the same time frame (10 months), what i see is pretty much the same picture: Wii U had 4 1/2 games (I don't even count Luigi U as a full original game) vs Switch's 5 1st party games.
If this isn't the best sign - nor the worst - then come not so great signs.
During the Switch presentation Nintendo didn't even announce a single 2018 from a 1st party studio. But Atlus did (that teaser for SMT) and so did Suda 51.
Why could they reveal something and not Nintendo?
Come E3 and their focus is still 2017 IN the video presentation.
I know that there are going to be 2018 games from Nintendo themselves, in there (really bad if not). Also i'm not trying to say they should focus on 2018 instead of 2017 (not one or the other logic). What shouldn't be the case is that they focus on 2017 games for the presentation. But being the case, i don't see that as a sign that they corrected that specific past mistake (also, take into consideration all of the above).
Personally, i don't see XB2 slipping to 2018. I actually believe MS has got this covered and are able to bring out the game in 2017.
Emily seems really confident it's [Rayman + Mario] the September game. The, we also have Stars (highly rumoured, too).
I do agree with you. In terms of quality, it's way better than what Nintendo made, during Wii U, for pretty much a full year.
So, oficially, we have one - one! - game announced (just that really, no teaser, no nothing) for 2018, by Nintendo.
And the worst part, is that they don't seem keen on hyping 2018... even with E3 coming. Therefore i question.
If they don't announce "a lot" during E3, they better do it before the year ends. But the real question is why do that when you have the biggest stage for that?
