Nintendo reveals E3 2017 plans – video presentation, Treehouse stream, tournaments

[Miyamotoo]

DélioPT said:

Miyamotoo said:

January 2013. ND was panic ND because Wii U start selling castrofic, and they wanted to show people that great games coming and to give people reason to buy Wii U, not to mention that in that ND they announced games that didn't released for years or announced games that they just start working on (obviously Zelda). And not just that they didn't raised sales of Wii U, but they basically spoiled most Wii U surprises in that January ND for games that will be released in next several years.

Of Course you will hardly know what's for Switch in 2018. when Switch is only 2 months on market and we are not even in half of 2017. year, I would understand your concern if E3 was passed and they did not showed any 2018. Switch game. It's very obvious they managing Switch completely different than other consoles, they showed 1st Switch 3min trailer 5 months before launch, and actualy Switch full presentation with games only 2.5 months before launch. And guess what, their plan is working, Switch is selling great and people are exating about Switch and upcoming games. But they will show some 2018. games definitely, they will not just focus on them, but actually on game that will be released in near future.

Yes, Switch has been a success. But how long can they life off of Zelda and MK8 Deluxe?! Did you somehow forget ARMS, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, Mario Odyssey and definitely some other announced 2017. game/games!? Switch is still selling great and doesn't seems it will slow down anytime soon, and Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey will also be big system seller games.

Its not point if they can focus or they can focus on 2018. games, but is point they dont want to focus on games that are long away from release but instead they will focus on games that will be launched in relatively near future, and that actualy totaly make sense. Majority of people will also see some of 2018. games on E3 2017. fact that they want focus on them, doesn't change anything.

 

They didn't need to say focus on 2017. games, but they did say, same like they didn't need to say focus on Splatoon 2 and ARMS in last ND, but they did. Again, in last ND main focus was on Splatoon 2 and ARMS but we have tons of other games being shown.

No, focus means exatly that focus (with more videos, infos, TreeHouse play, demo stations, tournaments, marketing..), you don't know how many 2018. games they will show, they can easily show 5 games, but they will not be focus on them (with more videos, infos, TreeHouse play, demo stations, tournaments, marketing..) but they will most likely have just one trailer and maybe small gameplay video. I gave you very good example of focus on 2017. game and showing 2018. game that totally make sense (Mario Odyssey and posible new Metroid Prime).

No one is saying that they just focus on games coming out in the second half or beyond. Nintendo does, it not 1st time Nintendo is doing things in own way, they done exactly that with their last ND, and actually the whole Switch managing is totaly different compared to every other console.

 

You do realise that they failed to support 3DS and Wii U in satisfied way is because they supported them in same time with divided resources (on Wii U and 3DS platforms). Wii U is reason why 3DS support was slow and bad and 3DS is reason why Wii U support was slow and bad. Not just that Nintendo admitted that, but from some interviews we saw that after 3DS underperformed launch, they paused all Wii U projects and move all resources to 3DS projects in order to finish stronger games faster in order to save 3DS, thats why Wii U had terrible software droughts in its 1st year. And NX/Switch project is actualy product of that, they realised they cant effectively support any more two different platforms in same time, and thats why Switch will be only one and unified (handheld/home console) platform they will support.

They started taking away 3DS support for quite time now, most of 2017. 3DS games are done by external studios not internal, and even those games are mostly ports, spinoffs and smaller projects.

What the panic ND showed was that their speech of trying to focus on Wii U launch window was a lie. They said it because they knew they had nothing. And E3 2013 showed exactly that.
Do you really believe if they had a ton of games at that time they wouldn't have revealed them during E3 2012 or E3 2013?

And that is what i see with this coming E3.
You assume that by focus they mean spending more time on 2017 games, but that's not correct.
They didn't need to say they were going to focus on 2017 games. They did it because they are not going to reveal a good number of games for 2018. They didn't do it in January and, by the looks of it, they are not doing it again now.

Comparing how they handle NDs to how they handle E3 presentations is not the best comparison.
E3 is to make a splash. That's why they start planning months before and even spend a lot of money to have a E3 booth.
It's that time of the year that impressing gamers is more relevant than any other ND.

Yes, their plan is working but gamers have memory too and they remember how Wii U panned out.
And exactly what has Nintendo done, besides PR speech, that convinces them that Switch will have great support (also promised for 3DS and Wii U and failed at delivering)?
Wii droughts during it's last 2 years was a sign that 3DS was going to have great support... but it didn't.
Then, 3DS drought would explain how they were focusing on Wii U... but it didn't.
See, it's things like this that people remember - and i'm not even addressing 3rd party support... - and want to be shown that it won't happen again.
The real reason Wii U had such a bad support was because of how unprepared they were for the HD era. Even Nintendo admitted to this.

So far, Nintendo has 2 system sellers for the second half: Splatoon 2 and Mario.
The rest either sells well but it's not a system seller and is yet to prove itself (Arms).

Even if they started streamlining their software production in 2017 you'll probably just see the result of that in 2 or more years.
And again, if there's a great amount of games, show them!
After Wii U, the last thing Nintendo needs is to make people afraid they are buying something that will end up not having great support.

I dont get what you try to say. Point is that Wii U didnt had system seller game in its hole 1st year, and after terrible sales right after holiday season and launch they wanted people to be sure that great games are coming, and in that way try to raise sales. If you remember, they 1st time showed SM3DW at E3 2013. and they released it 5 months later. They basically did showed everything they had at E3 2013. only difference is that most of those games were already spoiled buy that famous January ND.

Totally two different situations, I would said incomparable. Terrible Wii U sales forced Nintendo to show everything they are working on, but Switch is in totally different situation, they can choose whatever they want, and spread announcements. Of Course they focus on 2017. games means more times spended on 2017. games, and actualy TreeHouse play, Demo units play and tournaments proves that, you can hardly expect that for games that will be released in 1-2 year. They can still be focused on 2017. games and show plenty of 2018. games.

No, actualy last ND is great example, they also said focus on ARMS and Splatoon, and we had plenty other games in ND. This is same thing, focus on 2017. games but there will definitely be 2018. games also.

New console doesn't have anything with previous console, GC was biggest fail of Nintendo, but than Wii was selling like crazy and become best selling Nintendo console, and then after Wii and most successful Nintendo console Wii U become worst selling Nintendo console, now we have Switch that comes after biggest Nintendo faile, and Switch break records in sales. What people and gamers know is that Swith obviusly is not Wii U, that already has few phenomenal must play games and that more huge games are coming this year, that Switch is selling great and that is very popular. Difference between 3DS and Wii U promise of support is that they keep that promise out of gate with Switch, 1st year of Switch looks phenomenal, just Zelda BotW blows away complete Wii U 1st year, just look how many strong games Switch has in its 1st 9 months on market.

HD development is one of reasons, but another big reasons is saving of 3DS in time when Nintendo needed to prepare Wii U launch and 1st year lineup. And like I wrote, that was confirmed through some Nintendo interviews where Nintendo developers talked how they put their Wii U projects to side and focused on 3DS projects.

Yes, one biggest and best game ever like launch game, huge system seller game two months later, Splatoon 2 for summer and Mario Odyssey for holiday season. Talking about ARMS, its wild card it can be quite popular game but also can have mediocre popularity. If we talk about biggest games and system seller games in 1st year Switch has probably strongest compared to any other Nintendo console. And of course there will be some other games alongside them and most likely some 2017. game/games that are not still uannounced.

They will definitely show some of 2018. games, but they don't have any reason to now show all their 2018. Switch projects. Dont worry, most people already forget that Wii U existed, while some don't even know that existed.