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DélioPT said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yes dont read too much in Nintendo's words especially if doesn't make sense and it opposite to what are they are doing, but that doesnt mean everything they say is not true, especially when is obvious that they are doing things they also saying.

Of Course I believe, I think in any case that Nintendo will have solid number of Switch games in 2018.

They showed at E3 2014 everything they had because they tried to save Wii U, at end of 2014. its was obvious that Wii U cant be saved, and they changed focus to NX, thats why at E3 2015. we didn't had any bigger new announcement, that's why they used E3 2016 to promote huge Switch launch game that will be system seller.

Point of last ND is exatly that, they will focus on 2017. games (that actautly totaly make sense), but they will also show some 2018. titles but they will not focus on them because they far away from release.

It's very obvious, Nintendo want to focus and to marketing more games that will be released and that will be in sell in near future (3-6 months), not games that will be released in 1-2 years. Recent past is bad example for comparison, because you have failed console with dropped support, while with Switch you have console that is successful with hole life in front.

First, my comment above was just a joke.
Still, if we use your logic, then i am right and when mentions the focus on something (current year) then they really are focusing on this year.

They showed a lot in 2014, but it wasn't just to save the Wii U. Remember the ND after Wii U launched? That really was to save Wii U because they "focused" on launch window games (aka, we don't have anything left to show) when they announced Wii U.
In a certain way, this has been Switch's problems since January: you just don't know what's coming next year.

E3 should be that time of the year where you make a big splash and regain people's trust after a) they got burnt on Wii U, b)seeing as Wii U was a failure.
That's why it's important to bring your A game to E3.
Yes, Switch has been a success. But how long can they life off of Zelda and MK8 Deluxe?
How do you make people believe you have enough support for your console when you just don't show it? Consumers want to know they aren't buying another console that a year from now will have little support.

Again, if you can't focus on upcoming games (2018 games, not necessarily all of Switch's upcoming 2018 games, mind you) in your initial console presentation, if you can't do it also at E3, what do you think the majority of people will think? That they are holding back on purpose and that they want you to make you fear purchasing a Switch?
That makes no sense.

Marketing your upcoming games doesn't stop you from showing more 2018 games. You can show them and have throughout the year, specific NDs - as they did a ton of times.

 

Miyamotoo said:

Because its logical you will be focused on games that will be released in near future than games that will be released in year or two. Example, for instance Mario Odyssey is holiday 2017. game and new Metroid Prime is holiday 2018. game, what has more sense, to be more focused on Mario Odyssey or on new Metroid Prime at E3 2017.!? Of Course they will be focused and that they will have much more videos, infos, TreeHouse play, demo stations, marketing...for Mario Odyssey game that will be released in 5 months than for game that will be released in 1.5 year. And thats exatly what most likly Nintendo is doing, focus on Mario Odyssey (much more videos, infos, TreeHouse play, demo stations, marketing...), while most likly we would get just one trailer for Metroid Prime with year of relase.

You know that they didn't have to say they would focus on 2017 games, right?
But when you say it you are sending a clear message: we are not focusing on 2018 games.

That means that it's not a question of showing more or less 2018 games, it's really saying that they will show a small number of games.

No one is saying that they just focus on games coming out in the second half or beyond.

Einsam_Delphin said:

 

Like I said, the year is 2017, not 2018, makes more sense to spend more of your limited time on the immediate future since there'll be more time later for the later stuff. We only knew of one Switch game after E3 2016, that didn't spell doom and gloom for Switch this year.

Right and they can deliver without revealing their whole 2018 line-up. On top of a great showing for the games we already know about (Splatoon 2, Mario Odyssey, ARMS, Xenoblade 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, Octopath Traveler, Sonic Forces, etc.), Pokemon Stars, Pikmin 4, Retro's Game, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, SSB4 Switch, etc., even just a few of those would easily make this E3 way better than 2015 if it's not already.

 

rjason12 said:

Makes sense. Obviously they don't have any games ready for 2018. I mean they've been developing games for Switch since around 2015 or so. Do you really think none are ready and are going to be released in 2018? Rumor is that MK8D and SMO have been completed and we're ready at launch, but they chose to hold them back so that they could release a game a month to keep the momentum going.

If only history had show us how dropping support for a platform would automatically mean that the next generation would be fully supported. Yet, they failed at supporting 3DS and failed even harder at supporting Wii U.

Don't forget that they are still supporting 3DS. Which means that they still have 2 platforms to support - not for long, but still...

January 2013. ND was panic ND because Wii U start selling castrofic, and they wanted to show people that great games coming and to give people reason to buy Wii U, not to mention that in that ND they announced games that didn't released for years or announced games that they just start working on (obviously Zelda). And not just that they didn't raised sales of Wii U, but they basically spoiled most Wii U surprises in that January ND for games that will be released in next several years.

Of Course you will hardly know what's for Switch in 2018. when Switch is only 2 months on market and we are not even in half of 2017. year, I would understand your concern if E3 was passed and they did not showed any 2018. Switch game. It's very obvious they managing Switch completely different than other consoles, they showed 1st Switch 3min trailer 5 months before launch, and actualy Switch full presentation with games only 2.5 months before launch. And guess what, their plan is working, Switch is selling great and people are exating about Switch and upcoming games. But they will show some 2018. games definitely, they will not just focus on them, but actually on game that will be released in near future.

Yes, Switch has been a success. But how long can they life off of Zelda and MK8 Deluxe?! Did you somehow forget ARMS, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, Mario Odyssey and definitely some other announced 2017. game/games!? Switch is still selling great and doesn't seems it will slow down anytime soon, and Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey will also be big system seller games.

Its not point if they can focus or they can focus on 2018. games, but is point they dont want to focus on games that are long away from release but instead they will focus on games that will be launched in relatively near future, and that actualy totaly make sense. Majority of people will also see some of 2018. games on E3 2017. fact that they want focus on them, doesn't change anything.

 

They didn't need to say focus on 2017. games, but they did say, same like they didn't need to say focus on Splatoon 2 and ARMS in last ND, but they did. Again, in last ND main focus was on Splatoon 2 and ARMS but we have tons of other games being shown.

No, focus means exatly that focus (with more videos, infos, TreeHouse play, demo stations, tournaments, marketing..), you don't know how many 2018. games they will show, they can easily show 5 games, but they will not be focus on them (with more videos, infos, TreeHouse play, demo stations, tournaments, marketing..) but they will most likely have just one trailer and maybe small gameplay video. I gave you very good example of focus on 2017. game and showing 2018. game that totally make sense (Mario Odyssey and posible new Metroid Prime).

No one is saying that they just focus on games coming out in the second half or beyond. Nintendo does, it not 1st time Nintendo is doing things in own way, they done exactly that with their last ND, and actually the whole Switch managing is totaly different compared to every other console.

 

You do realise that they failed to support 3DS and Wii U in satisfied way is because they supported them in same time with divided resources (on Wii U and 3DS platforms). Wii U is reason why 3DS support was slow and bad and 3DS is reason why Wii U support was slow and bad. Not just that Nintendo admitted that, but from some interviews we saw that after 3DS underperformed launch, they paused all Wii U projects and move all resources to 3DS projects in order to finish stronger games faster in order to save 3DS, thats why Wii U had terrible software droughts in its 1st year. And NX/Switch project is actualy product of that, they realised they cant effectively support any more two different platforms in same time, and thats why Switch will be only one and unified (handheld/home console) platform they will support.

They started taking away 3DS support for quite time now, most of 2017. 3DS games are done by external studios not internal, and even those games are mostly ports, spinoffs and smaller projects.