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barneystinson69 said:
Zkuq said:

Oh, so they're investigating nothing, just to make it look bad for Trump, after basically giving Trump the election victory? Investigations can take a lot of time, especially when there's powerful people involved. This isn't a routine investigation. Also, it'd be foolish to think Russia had nothing to do with the election for sure. Maybe it didn't, or maybe the effect was quite small, but I doubt you have access to the information necessary to make any kind of conclusions about the situation. Neither do I, but I'm not claiming anything to be certain about the situation.

Of course Russia "influenced" the election! Hell I'm sure other countries have tried in the past, and I'm sure the United States have done the same (in fact, they did with Russia in the 90s as well). That was apparent with wiki-leaks. Even so, the Russians didn't hack the machines, they didn't force people to vote Trump, and the ballots weren't stuffed, meaning the election wasn't rigged. I understand investigations, but when the media is painting this as Trump working with Russia, when nothing has come out to prove that, I do have an issue with that.

That is an incredibule naive view.  Misinformation or even just taking small bits of infomation out of context is a powerful tool to control the media and people thinking.  To believe that the targeted leaks from Wiki-Leaks on the DNC and Hillary but nothing on Trump and the RNC isn't information warfare is to totally ignore history.  Also this isn't the media painting Trump working with Russia, its Trump own people who were in contact with Russia operatives during the election that is being investigated.  Do not forget it's Turmp who had to fire 2 people in his group that were actively speaking about stuff they should not and that is Manafort and Flynn.  Very high up people in his own org who probably not speaking to Russian Operatives just out of their own self interest.