Is this Phil Spencer's final test for Microsoft? Is his job on the line?

[Mr Puggsly]

thismeintiel said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Oh, Scorpio will get a lot more attention than PS4 Pro. Especially if they treat it like reboot/new console at E3. But sales will also depend on that launch price.

PS4 Pro was a missed opportunity. Sony did a great job designing the original PS4 but their mid gen upgrade feels almost unnecessary.

See, I think a lot of people are going to feel the opposite.  The Scorpio feels unnecessary, since its games are going to PC.  Other than being powerful, it has no identity of its own.  Really, you could say that about Xbox lately.  Probably why sales are dropping so much.  And if MS really tries to sell it for $499, that problem will appear tenfold.  For that, or a little more, you actually could build a decent PC.  

And for being unnecessary, the Pro is actually doing quite well now that it's back in stock.  It beat the top XBO SKU last month on Amazon, and it's looking to do it, again, this month.  You see, the Pro is exactly what it's advertised as, a mid-gen upgrade.  It doesn't need to be much more than twice as powerful because it is being held back by the OG PS4,  as well as its Jaguar cores, something the Scorpio is going to suffer from, too.  It also helps with keeping the price low and with future price cuts.  And in 3 years from its launch, there will be the PS5, to reclaim that suddenly so coveted power crown.  Where MS is going to have to announce they have some new HW just 1 1/2 years after the Scorpio, if they want to keep up with PS.

If you have a gaming PC and Windows 10, you're already in MS's ecosystem. But not everybody is interested in a gaming on PC, its more expensive hardware, so X1 will continue to sell.

We'll get a better idea of how X1 is doing when the year is done. It always has a strong holiday, X1S will likely hit $249, and people are waiting for the Scorpio.

The average console gamer is not building PCs. When somebody suggests this it shows how out of touch they're with the average console gamer.

I'm not sure if Amazon is the best source... but okay. I won't question your anecdotal evidence. PS4 Pro isn't held back by the PS4, because its not a significant upgrade. It struggles to achieve 4K in most games and it rarely pushes a game to 60 fps even at 1080p. That's why its a missed opportunity, it doesn't improve PS4 games enough.

Scorpio made a big upgrade on GPU so it will likely acheive 4K with greater ease. In theory the custom CPU sounds like huge upgrade, but we'll have to see it in practice. The X1 isn't holding Scorpio back, it has the power to make X1 content significantly more polished. Scorpio will be able to boast about having the ports and that's worth something as well. For years we've heard the media has been playing multiplat games on PS4, now they may use Scorpio.

Well I'm certainly curious to see how powerful PS5 will be, hopefully they don't underwhelm like PS4 Pro did. However, Scorpio will atleast have the advantage of being cheaper than PS5. I also suspect Scorpio will share games with the next Xbox.