Pemalite said:
areason said:
Universal healthcare is rationing, supply is limited, doctors get badly paid (which results in lower quality healthcare), and overall it is an unnecessary burden on our budget.
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Except examples from all around the planet have proven without a doubt that is false.
Universal healthcare hasn't shown that Doctors get badly paid, resulting in lower quality care.
Nor is it more expensive (Often it's actually cheaper than the US system!) resulting in less of a burden on the budget.
areason said:
Goverment based healthcare will not work to keep prices as low as possible, they will simply put that on the taxpayer. And at the end of the day people will get taxed for it.
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Yet. Government based healthcare systems all around the world tend to be cheaper than the US system on a per-capita basis. So your argument is without basis.
areason said:
Society is falling in debt due to it's oldest population (France,Uk,US). Things like social security and pensions are outdated and flawed systems which do not get funded by the individuals history of paying taxes but by current tax payers. The US goverment doesn't have the budget to pay for universal healthcare.
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The United States used to have the mentality that it could do anything, you used to be a shining example to the world on what other countries could aspire to be like.
And it still can. Also not all debt is bad debt. And not all countries are the US, UK and France.
Your country wastes so much money on frivolous things, cut back on those and support the people in your own nation first.
areason said:
Personally i would go for a private system, but with medicare on the side in order to help the less fortunate.
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Basically the complete opposite of the dozens of countries with Universal Healthcare systems which are lower in cost on a per-capita basis and have higher quality levels of care? Where is the sense in that reasoning? You have been taking the opposite approach for decades/centuries. It clearly hasn't worked has it? Time to throw it into reverse and take a different approach.
Australia has a Universal Healthcare system, it works.
If you exceed a certain tax bracket threshold then you have the option of getting private healthcare... But you aren't required to. If you don't opt for Private healthcare then you need to pay an extra tax.
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Rationally speaking, it sounds rational to tell an American that it makes sense to have Universal healthcare if they are in a certain tax bracket, but sometimes they will make $30-40k a year and will still fight you about wanting private healthcare while they are raising a family.
