Mummelmann said:
Bolded: Oh my actual god, where on earth have I said it will sell like the Wii U or Vita, just a few posts above yours I'm talking about both 60 and 70 million as the potential. This is absolutely absurd, all you're doing is polarizing the argument for no reason. Switch has an interesting and good concept is not a fact; that's your subjective opinion, there are plenty of gamers who find it rather uninteresting. So that's a subjective supposition. Switch has great branding and marketing; I've yet to see any marketing for it here in Scandinavia, besides the posters outside of or in gaming stores and it has zero viral marketing like the Wii. As for branding, it's terribly confusing to the mass market since it looks like a tablet and all outlets are calling it a tablet, but it's not actually a tablet and lacks most of the core functions of one. That's not great branding and those are yet more subjective suppositions. PS4 had in insane launch, far better than PS2, that doesn't mean it will beat the PS2's lifetime sales, or even come close to them. Front-loaded figures are utterly worthless, long term baseline tells us about the market, not the launch window. It's doing great in Japan, yes, just like I said it would in a previous post to you (the MPV analogy, if you even read it you would know this). This is no indication of stupendous lifetime sales in and on itself, as anyone with basic knowledge on the industry and market would tell you without blinking. There is obvious demand for the Switch; yes, there is, but how much and in which regions and how long will this demand keep up in the modern, fast-paced market with its form factor placing it near to the devastating smart devices? Again, we know very little until the dust has settled and a long term picture forms. Most consoles released in the past generation(s) were sold out at launch and even for a couple of weeks, this tells us nothing about actual, long term demand. It will have the same system sellers and heavy hitters as all Nintendo consoles, we've been over this before, that software in itself doesn't ensure a long and happy life with incredible sales, as has been seen many times before. The combo of a core concept with great and lasting appeal and great software is what produces the highest selling consoles of all time. This is also senseless at this stage, history is littered with products that had a good start and then failed to live up to immense expectations (but still did well). So, largely, your arguments are based on subjective notions, or in some cases incomplete or even irrelevant data. And if you finish with claiming that I'm saying the Switch will sell like the Wii U and Vita, that says a lot about the level of your reasoning on the matter, especially when there's actual, written and thorough evidence to the contrary in this very same page and in posts you yourself have quoted. The Switch's similarity to the Wii U is mainly its attempt at forced market convergence and appealing to two very different demographics with one device, there are a few examples of this strategy doing quite well, but it usually doesn't set the world ablaze. This does not in any way, shape or form mean that the Switch will sell like the Wii U, claiming that is about as silly as claiming it's the new Wii based on what we've seen so far and a mere 6 weeks into its life cycle. |
I didn't said that you said that Switch will sell like Wii U or Vita, but that you act like Switch has sale like them. You even compared Vita and Switch even they are very different.
Device that act like real home console and real handheld, that comes with two controllers for multiplayer out of box, and that actually can be used for local multiplayer mode even in handheld mode, and that will have handheld and home console games. So yes, it's definitely interesting and good concept (aiming handheld and home console in same time).
Maybe in Scandinavia, only fact that Switch has Super Bowl commercial disproves you, you have plenty marketing of Switch, espacily in US and Japan. There is no any confusing regardless Switch branding, its all very simple, use it like ever you want and wherever you ever want, its very obviously great branding.
Yes, PS4 has insane launch and its still one best selling console for same time frame. We can just predict how much Switch could sell, same like thos analist who said 14m in 1st whole year.
Of Course we don't know for how much, but on US and Japan Nintendo constantly sell all units they can shipped, that seems isnt case with Europe. Wrong, what exatly past Nintendo console had new 3D Zelda, Mario Kart, huge new IP (Splatoon 2) and 3D Mario in its 1st year!? That's software insures great 1st year for Switch and early must have titles in 1st 9 months of console life. Yes, and Switch has great concept and will have great games in its 1st 9 months on market.
I could say same for you arguments.
Wii U was home console with tablet controler, while Switch is real home console and real handheld in one, but even biggest difference is that Wii U failed on every single point, going from reveal, concept, branding, marketing, timing, pricing, no system seller or must have games in 1st year, terible software droughts...while Switch done all that right, similar like Wii. From what we saw until now, Switch is definitely much closer to Wii in terms of potential success than to Wii U.
