Soundwave said:
The victim menality, you might as well bathe in horse piss before going outside, because it basically kills any chance you have with any kind of even semi-attractive woman. She has 5 dudes likely at any point just dying to hook up with her, and the odds are extremely high that 1, 2, 3 or even all 5 of them are less socially retarded than you are. I mean yeah, you can sit around and whine as a man about stuff ... but then what? Do you think you're actually going to get anywhere in life with that attitude? That's just my general consensus from meeting people like "men's rights activists" ... these dude's coudn't get laid if their life depended on it. Ditto for "feminazis" ... a lot of them are not getting laid, lol. A lot of this shit I think stems from sexual frustration. But instead of trying improve themselves they fall into the trap of complaining and whining and no one else gives a shit. |
I think it's funny that you and I disagree on so many things but we seem to share a lot of the same values!
Totally agree! We probably just had different experiences in life, because in my experience it's the "feminist" men who are pushovers and are (often manipulative) nice-guys who try to get women into bed by saying they are a feminist and by trying to be nice (which works so well, because which woman wouldn't go for a pushover nice guy who tries to talk her into having a relationship with him and supplicating to her all the time? Yeah...)
Just one example (not a guy though): A good friend of mine happened to be unhappy with her job and life situation (wrong job, wrong man). Instead of getting a new job and a new man she started complaining about the gender wage gap (of course she didn't get less money than the guys in her job). It was heartbreaking for me to see her try to get out of this mess but basically whenever she tried to start her self-help she'd find "advice" from feminists online which came down to "you are a victim and men are opressing you, so be angry at the patriarchy"! Luckily, she's doing a lot better now but the "advice" she found just made it harder for her because it really pushed the victim narrative.
And I could tell you about half a dozen other examples like this. But I can see how you can easily fall into the victim mentality trap by being an MRA as well: If you think women are evil and manipulative and you are held down by an evil society that expects men to do the first step in dating. That certainly isn't healthy.
Maybe the "political cleavage" (no joke, that's what the theory is called :p) of "Feminism vs. masculism" is the wrong way to look at things in general? Maybe the real cleavage is between people who want to empower themselves and others and people who have a victim mentality. And they are on both sides of the spectrum but just had different experiences in life.
