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Shadow1980 said:
Aeolus451 said:

What he calls himself is very relevent to this. Political ideologies and their labels change over time to better reflect what's going on in the present. Don't blame the right wing when bernie fucking sanders labels himself as such when he ran against hilary clinton an in the demoratic primary. You mean must thinking that I'm talking about the left and right in relationship to france or europe but I'm not.

I can call myself the King of England but that wouldn't make it so. Whatever reason Bernie has for calling himself a "democratic socialist," it's just as erroneous when right-wingers spew out "socialist" or "Marxist" at anything they don't agree with. "Socialism" has a very specific meaning: public ownership of the means of production. This isn't a case of semantic drift we're dealing with here. It's the deliberate re-engineering of language for propaganda purposes. But right-wing pundits don't get to change its definition to suit their purposes.

You can call yourself whatever the hell ya want but bernie sanders is a well known politician belonging to the democratic party with a huge platform and he calls himself a democratic socialist. The cat is a bit out of the bag. It doesn't matter if you agree with him or not. Not a single democrat complained of bernie using that term that I heard of. Some even liked it. Some probably voted for him because he described himself as such. To that bolded part, there's many types of socialism and some of bernie's political beliefs were socialist in nature. It's not that black and white. I'm sure more "democratic socialists" will sprout up on the regressive left in the near future. I'm not saying that democrats are socialists but there's clearly a prominent element of socialists mingled in there. They're definitely getting alot of support from american socialists and socialists elsewhere.