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Aeolus451 on 25 April 2017
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Shadow1980 said:

 

Aeolus451 said:

He calls himself a democratic socialist and yet they let him run for government positions as a democrat. Anyway, I've seen some of your political views on here and you sound just like any other college kid in the US who's a fresh liberal. 

What he calls himself is irrelevant. "Socialism" has become such an abused word in political discourse that its actual meaning. Bernie's actual platform and voting history show no indication of supporting the nationalization of any industry, though an interview from 30 years ago showed he supports cooperatives as a form of public ownership, or at least did at the time. In practice, he is a social democrat, not a socialist.

Aeolus451 said:

No. There's a sizable but growing element within the liberal party that are socialist or sort of blending the two.

"Liberal Party." I'm assuming you mean the Democrats. The Dems are a centrist party with some center-left members. Their platform is far more moderate than Bernie's. There is nothing to indicate that the Democrats support any sort of public ownership of the means of production. The idea that the Democrats are socialists is patently ridiculous, and only persists because of decades of successful framing and hijacking of language by right-wing pundits.

What he calls himself is very relevent to this. Political ideologies and their labels change over time to better reflect what's going on in the present. Don't blame the right wing when bernie fucking sanders labels himself as such when he ran against hilary clinton an in the demoratic primary. You mean must thinking that I'm talking about the left and right in relationship to france or europe but I'm not.