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SpokenTruth said:
potato_hamster said:

lol. I take it you're not a fan of the horseshoe theory?

Oh I can repsect the theory, but it's just that feminists and conservative politicians rarely see eye to eye on issues like this.

Louie said:

In no sane world would a law like this have the outcome you state. Men's Rights Activists don't want law to force people to split time evenly. They just want it to be the default setting. Because right now the de facto "default setting" is that women get the right to keep the children while men get "visitation rights". 

By the way: The idea to have "visitation rights" to see your own children is the most bizarre thing ever. They are your children! No one should have the right to keep a parent away from their children as long as they are mentally fit to take care of them. But that's exactly what's happening under current law. And what you stated in another post (which came down to "men often don't care for their families, which is why women keep the children") is blatant sexism of the worst kind! There are as many bad mothers out there as there are bad fathers. 

Actually, current law outside of Tennessee and South Carolina do not favor either (please cite otherwise).  What does favor one over the other is conservative beliefs that it is a woman's job to raise the children.  As for men not contesting custody battles, I wish that were not the case but far more fathers do not contend custody than do mothers.  That's just the numbers.  It's not sexism.

I know, that's why I said "de facto". You are exactly right, courts favor women because they think women are more able to provide care, while men are more able to provide a check. Still, isn't it a bit strange that feminists don't fight against this form of sexism and mysoginy? One could almost come to the conclusion that they don't want things to be fair ;) Basically, what we have here is Men's Rights Activists fighting against the very "sexism" you complain about while feminists (and you) defend it. Something is very wrong with that logic in my opinion. Actually, this is sexism against men and not against women. (But of course, feminists are quick to say "positive sexism!" when women are at an advantage, without actually fighting against that positive sexism).

And the reason many fathers do not contend custoday is because they know they won't get it. It's really easy: You ask your attorney for adivce and he starts laughing and tells you to forget about it. That's the unfortunate truth. If you know you're gonna lose the battle because the court system is biased there is a chance you won't even show up for it. It's beyond me how someone can spin this into "evil men opress women by forcing them into caregiver role".