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Zod95 said:
zorg1000 said:

Why does it matter that DS sold better than PSP? It sold over 80 million and virtually tied with GBA as the 3rd best selling handheld of all time. Either way, this is getting a bit off topic, your original point was that Switch lacked certain things to attract handheld gamers and i explained how those things can potentiallly get fixed with revisions.

Again PSP sold over 80 million despite PS2, PS3, 360, Wii & DS all being on the market simultaneously. PS4/Pro, XBO/Scorpio, PC & smartphones/tablets will certainly provide tough competition but that doesnt mean Switch cant carve out a sizeable market for itself since it offers a different experience from all those devices.

Here, ill show you the first party lineup for Wii & Wii U in their first 18 months.

 

Wii

Nov 2006-Twilight Princess

Nov 2006-Wii Sports

Nov 2006-Excite Truck

Jan 2007-WarioWare: Smooth Moves

Feb 2007-Wii Play

Apr 2007-Super Paper Mario

May 2007-Mario Party 8

Jun 2007-Big Brain Academy

Jun 2007-Pokemon Battle Revolution

Jul 2007-Mario Strikers Charged

Aug 2007-Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

Oct 2007-Donkey Kong Barrel Blast

Oct 2007-Battalion Wars 2

Nov 2007-Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

Nov 2007-Super Mario Galaxy

Nov 2007-Link's Crossbow Training

Jan 2008-Endless Ocean

Mar 2008-Super Smash Bros Brawl

Apr 2008-Mario Kart Wii

May 2008-Wii Fit

 

Wii U

Nov 2012-New Super Mario Bros U

Nov 2012-Nintendo Land

Jun 2013-Game & Wario

Aug 2013-Pikmin 3

Oct 2013-Wind Waker HD

Oct 2013-Wii Party U

Nov 2013-Super Mario 3D World

Feb 2014-Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze

May 2014-Mario Kart 8

 

Wii had a 1st party game almost every month in its first 18 months while Wii U would regularly go months between 1st party titles.

Also according to Nintendo's quarterly results, Wii had more games in its first year (196) than Wii U has had in 4 years (165).

It matters because PSP ended up with a third of the handheld market share, despite all the efforts Sony made to turn the tide and re-position PSP (to have "the things fixed with revisions", as you say).

Regarding your lists, where's Wii Fit U and New Super Luigi U ? It seems you didn't sweep everything. How can I trust those lists? Also, Nintendo followed a different strategy with WiiU, publishing more games produced by others. Thinking about the first 18 months, you'd have to add: Lego City Undercover, Mario & Sonic Olympic Winter Games, Bayonetta 2, The Wonderful 101, Monster Hunter Tri, among others. After all that, would there still be a difference? Maybe. Maybe not if other criteria is considered (first 12 months, first 24 months,...). There's no substantial difference between Wii's and WiiU's software support. The major difference is in the sales (which creates the illusion that the Wii was better supported). Do you think NS will be substantially more supported than WiiU? We can bet on that too if you want.

Someone doing better than you doesnt mean you did bad. Fact of the matter is that PSP sold really well, DS is the best selling handheld ever by a wide margin so being outperformed by it isnt really anything to be ashamed of.

Regardless, one example does not make a rule. Sure, PSP revisions did not increase demand by a huge margin but why are we ignoring the revisions that did have a positive affect like GB Pocket/Color, GBA SP, DS Lite, etc?

Also, I never said all Nintendo needs to do is release a revision and everything will be honky dory, you said Switch has a few flaws that make it less than ideal for handheld gamers and i simply pointed out that those flaws can potentially be fixed with a revision.

Sorry, I missed Wii Fit U but New Super Luigi was DLC, thats why i did not include it. Even if you add those 3rd party games that Nintendo published, the result is the same. Lego City was March, 4 months after NSMBU & NL and 3 months before G&W. W101 was Sept, M&S was Nov but then we have to add M&S for Wii as well. The point remains the same, Wii had a steady flow of releases while Wii U regularly went months without releases. Even if we extend that to 3 years or 4 years.

Also it seems you missed the part where Wii had more games in 1 year than Wii U had in 4. Wii had 196 games by the end of 2007, Wii U had 165 games by the end of 2016.



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