Why Are Feminists Evil?

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naruball said:

bdbdbd said:

So, what you're trying to say with the statistics comment? Can't be trusted, or what? If those statistics can't be trusted, can we trust the statistics the feminists use to prove their point on gender unequality? If we can, why can we trust them, but not these statistics?

Gonna have to quote myself to answer that.

"Tbh, I have to agree with some people that say that some of these statistics are wrong or at least misleading. Like, do they take into account how dangerous some of the jobs that some men do compare to the jobs women are assigned to in the same company?

Or, would you, as an employer hire a woman in her early thirties who hasn't had a baby but is married over a man with similar qualifications? Would you promote a woman who will most likely need to be absent from work for long periods in the future?"

 

The polls the other user cited show that most people don't claim to be feminists, not that they don't like the feminist movement, not that there is anything wrong with feminism. So, yes, it is misleading. Out of the people who answered, who knows what they meant when they said they're not feminists. It could mean a whole lot of things (hated, indifferent to them, kind of like them, like them, but I'm not part of their group, etc). If someone were to ask me "are you a buddhist?", I would answer "no", but based on what I've heard about it, I'd say its message sounds great. I just don't want to label myself that way.

You know, that's kind of pointless argumentation. His point was, that most of the people that are pro-equality, are not feminists. Being a feminist means that you have feministic worldview. This worldview is what people are rejecting. 

naruball said:

bdbdbd said:

No, I haven't met it without realising it. I have met people who just don't know how to help. All they can say is to either to go to a shrink or cry a river, build a bridge and get over it. 

Yes of course I can see your point. If it fits you the best, then it is the right movement for you. Everyone's going to need to make compromises, but if the movement isn't supporting what you believe in, then it just isn't for you. So, who's political views gays and feminists were supporting then?

"Cry me a river" is exactly what I'm talking about. Dismissing it as something unimportant.

They were supporting their own causes. Gays supported gays, feminists only women. Then some members of each group started going to meetings of the other and saw the problems they were facing and wanted to help. The greater in numbers the movement became, the more people started to notice and the less politicians could ignore them.

No. You don't dismiss it, you just don't know how to help. Have you ever tried how hard it is to help someone who has hard time? What do you do when you don't know how to help? Telling someone to go to a shrink isn't any different than saying he should cry a river. 

So, they made a compromise between supporting things they don't want to support and things they support.