| nil8r153 said: Visit Europe, talk to Muslims, get shocked how mainstream the "death penalty for apostates" is.
2.That is heartening to hear :)
Their hatred for homosexuals is well-established, but there are many other troubling beliefs that should move us to actively shed light on them, so that our people see why we are fighting Islamisation of Europe, and it's not just because we are "racist" or "right wingers" or whatever popular label they are using these days.
1. I don't hate homosexuals. My whole family doesn't hate homosexuals. Every friend I have doesn't hate homosexuals. I'm pretty sure any other "troubling beliefs" are just as unfounded as this one.
Consider that extensive reply my way of trying to correct things. The guy I am debating believes apostates should be killed, and he lives in freaking Australia!
Lucky for us, a new law just passed there to deny citizenship for those who don't adhere to the "Australian Values"
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2017/04/20/turnbull-cracks-down-on-citizenship-rules.html
3. Your reply was long-winded, I wouldn't say extensive. I've explained my position on apostasy pretty clearly, and that position will never affect you or anyone you know unless you move to an Islamic state (which doesn't exist at the moment) AND become Muslim AND leave Islam after that.
4. The West talks about freedom of belief or freedom of speech but whenever something makes you uncomfortable you want to do away with it. That is one of the reasons why Western values are such a farce to me.
5. Why does an Islamic ruling matter to you? It should be a discussion in Pakistan, where the ruling was misapplied on an innocent person and the majority of people are Muslim. In the West it is an ideological discussion that is all about imposing YOUR beliefs on others, with a thin coating of "speaking for justice" for good measure.
I hope the law extends to those who have already obtained their citizenship there. Muslims may love their religion so much, but not enough to go back to the shitholes they left behind. I'd like to see Europe & USA adapting similar and even tougher laws.
6. Mate, I hope with all my heart for the exact same thing, I was born here unfortunately, so I'm safe at the moment but a world where all Muslims go back to where they came from and work on reforming their state is my absolute dream <3
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1. Just like you don't hate the guy in the video, but you still agree that he should've been sentenced to death? Your only objection is the way he was killed isn't the "right way"... So tell me, what's the punishment of homosexual acts in Islam? let us know, and follow it with "I don't hate homosexual :)" please.
As for my unfounded claims about Muslims of Europe not liking homosexuals, read here:
The other belief I find troubling is the punishment of apostates which you are almost too happy with, is that unfounded as well?
2. Funny how you didn't question my claim when I said: "many Muslims in Europe believe apostates should be punished by death" but you did question me when I said "Muslims of Europe don't like homosexuals"
You only question others when they say things you don't agree with huh?
3. Tell that to the Muslims who want Sharia Law in the UK.
4. The west foreign policy is based on hypocrisy, especially that of the US and the UK. I am ashamed of our leaders, and our politicians. It seems like yesterday when Trump promised us who will make peace with the Russians and get out of the middle east, but here we are with another set of broken promises. I agree the west uses "justice" as an excuse to wreak havoc on other countries.
5. It matters to me because we constantly clash with Muslims in the UK asking for Sharia Law to be imported, and soon, the rest of Europe will face something similar, and like with all religions, it's only a matter of time until someone starting using Islamic rhetoric as a tool to control the Muslims of Europe, that's what all leaders do.
Moreover, I've researched multiple religions in the past, including Islam, I haven't crossed boundaries throughout the discussion.
6. Maybe when the petrodollar system falls apart and wars stop being profitable business, which is unlikely.
