| nil8r153 said:
So Allah's claim about being "the most just" is objectively wrong. Eternal punishment strips him/her from that title. One can think of many adjustments that Allah can make that will easily make him more merciful than he/she is right now. That being said, your opinion is not objective whatsoever, nor is mine. There are some unavoidable biases at play - mine being the Islamic state of mind, and yours being your ideology. To me, eternal punishment is just, without a doubt. If the Creator, who knows all, knows that an individual will eternally be too arrogant to bow down and worship him, why should said creator not punish the individual eternally? If your response would be something along the lines of higher morality, then my previous paragraph is my answer to that.
My conception of justice is to give a punishment equal to the wrongdoing, and eternal disbelief seems eternally punishable to me (Disclaimer: That is the way I rationalise it but that may not be God's logic, as I am also human afterall, so what weight does my reasoning really hold when we are talking about a divine being.) Forgive me if my thoughts seem scattered - had a long, tiring day. |
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We only rationalise the irrational, the fact that you had to rationalise eternal punishment can only mean that you don't find it rational yourself. Asking me to admit that the Quran is a miracle thanks to its linguistic beauty and not question its rational fallacies is, once again, ridiculous.
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I was gonna respond to that but upon reading further, I realised its your own rational as you admitted later in your own post. I won't dwell on what's basically pure speculation on your part, and not information provided (allegedly) by Allah.
Moving on..
Can't you see the difference between you and me? I evaluate and question what I read before deciding if it's right or wrong. You, on the other hand, got it backward, you basically believe everything mentioned in the Quran is right, and whenever challenged, you will twist, speculate, and come up with implausible scenarios to maintain that belief. Whatever logical fallacy I throw at you next, you will find a way to rationalise it.
The Quran shouldn't contain logical fallacies if Allah wants me to believe in it.
Being a non-believer is not an easy choice, it's much harder than being a Muslim. I'd like to be a believer, what's not to love? Eternal heaven and knowing that whoever I lose in this life, I'll find again in the afterlife. It sounds like a great deal to me, but I am not buying fantasies just to feel better about life.
