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Aeolus451 on 18 April 2017
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irstupid said:
crissindahouse said:

Why should any science need to prove there is no god? If I say that I know an alien from Mars then it's my job to prove it and not the job of others to disprove it. 

That doesn't mean there is no god but it's still not the job of disbelievers to prove there is none. 

The very point of science is to prove things. Religion is about faith. To prove ones religion would be counter to that, just as to not prove something would be counter to science..

So yes, in this case it is up to you to prove that God or whatever you are talking about does not exist. There is nothing for a religious person to prove. They believe. 

 

irstupid said:
A_C_E said:

No, the very point of science is to peer review factual findings and test them against the fabric of the universe in order to better understand reality. How can you do this with a belief claim? Your kind of thinking is so counter-intuitive considering the burden of proof is on the one making the claim, whether it's a belief or not.

Let's put it this way: A believer claims there is a God, a Scientists' claim will be that there is no evidence. You are now saying it is not up to the believer who made the initial claim, instead up to science, so explain to me this: How can science prove that there is nothing of something that doesn't exist?

You still don't get it. Religion is not a science, it is not a hypothesis. Someone religious is not putting out some theory that God exists and trying to prove it like scientists do for their theories. They just believe. A believer does not care about proof or not. They have faith, or believe. Proof is contrary to that. They don't need proof and don't desire to find proof. If you need proof to believe in God, you do not beleive in God. 

You and other non-believers seem to care about proof that he exists or not. Thus if you want that proof, then it's up to you to go and get that proof one way or another. 

I had to respond with my two cents after reading your nonsensical posts. You don't really understand the point in believing in a religion or god. You're getting too hung up in the faith or belief of it. I'll explain it as best as I can.  

Every truly religious person believes their religion is genuinely real. If they have any sense, they would care about any proof that their god(s) are/is real because it would validate their beliefs and they would get the rewards for their beliefs or it would prove that they wasted their life believing in something that doesn't exist. Most religious people (and their families) invest a great deal of themselves into their belief because they think it's real.  To them, it's do or die. 

Science in general doesn't have a bet on a horse in if god(s) are real or not so to speak. It's merely a curiousity to prove it or not for people of science. They don't have any pressure or obligation to prove or disprove the existence of god(s).