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Machiavellian on 12 April 2017
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mountaindewslave said:
Machiavellian said:

It does not matter if you are on the plane or not on the plane.  Not sure why people keep thinking this is a distinction.  Federal regulations allows ALL airlines to bump passengers when overbooked even if they are on the plane.  This means that your ticket means nothing as far as you having rights to fly on any particular plane.  Usually all things get handled before boarding but it doesn't matter if you board or not board as you can still get kicked off.   

United called security after asking him to leave repeatedly.  Since United cannot enforce removal of a passenger, security was called because no matter what he was going to get bumped.  As I have stated, he played a bluff but once security came on the scene, the rules changed.  Now he was being asked to leave by security and by refusing the onus was now on him. 

 

On another issue, I am not even sure that this guy will be able to sue United.  Federal regulations allows airlines to oversale and bump passengers from planes so United was in their legal right.  Since it was security that removed the passenger which caused him to get hurt, then only airport security can be placed in the claim.  Should be interesting to see if a lawsuit gets filed and if United can be claimed. 

do a little more research. You're on here arguing about a story you don't know well (clearly). This was NOT overbooking. Overbooking does not occur with employees who don't pay for tickets. The whole reason this situation occured was because LAST MINUTE United wanted to squeeze some of their employees on the plane for a flight and screw over 4 of their customers.

Overbooking would be if there were 4 seats sold to 8 people and (obviously) in that case pre-boarding the airline would have to reallocate half of the people due to their mistake

He very likely does have a case. I also am almost certain that legally speaking there is no clause that someone can be removed from a plane without merit. This isn't overbooking, this isn't a disorderly passenger, this isn't anything- except for United last minute wanting to fly some of their own people. There certainly is NOTHING in a ticket contract stating that your seat can go to an employee for a non emergency

Lol, United just changed their story.  I am arguing about overbooked which was the original story until now.  I actually have a job so not following every minute update on this issue.  Either way you are still wrong, go read the guideline on oversale yourself and see there is nothing stating when an airline can bump you off a plane.  Meaning if there is not a specific time then it's anytime.