Did Sony make a mistake by be first to release an upgraded console.

[Mr Puggsly]

hunter_alien said:

Mr Puggsly said:

I have the opposite perspective. MS doesn't need to lose money on Scropio because X1 S is going to sell more units regardless. Its cheaper (maybe $249 soon) and plays the same games.

I see the Scorpio is a long term plan, whether its $400 or $500 at launch. The average consumer will want the the X1 S that's also bundled with some AAA game. Down the road (1 or 2 years depending on launch price) Scropio should hit $300, people will want a more powerful device, and sales of the X1 S will decline for Scorpio.

If PS5 aims for the sweet spot of $399 in 2019 or 2020, I'm not sure it can be significantly more powerful than Scorpio while being profitable. People think Scropio is too powerful to hit $399 now, so how powerful can PS5 be really at $399 in 3 years? Look at PS4 Pro, its 3 years later, $399, but not significantly more powerful than PS4 and considerably less powerful than Scorpio.

I also believe MS will want Scropio supported along with the next X1. While PS4 and PS5 maybe not share outside of BC.

Phil Spencer keeps talking about the importance of exclusives, we'll have to wait and see what becomes of that. But less notable exclusives than PS4 shouldn't negate the fact X1 does have some great exclusives. As I said before if X1 can simply maintain its current sales then that's good enough, it would achieve 360 userbase eventually.

Yeah, I agree it could work. But it is still a gamble on their side. They are trully pushing the Scorpio specs wise (it is impressive on a hardware level) the question is how much ground can it gain in 2-3 years and how much their bet on the True 4K will bring. IMO they still have the odds against them, but if anyone can pull it off, than that is MS, as they have by far the largest financial muscle from the 3.

I actually feel MS is playing it pretty safe with Xbox. X1 was never sold at a significant if any loss, we expect more of the same Scorpio. The era of selling hardware at a big loss is over.

As far as software goes, they're arguably playing it too safe. They need to invest more in exclusives, that's definite. If they're willing to launch a more powerful X1 then surely they're ready to invest in games.

The odds that are against them is surpassing Playstation, its just not gonna happen. But if they can acheive a userbase of 60-80 in the next 4-5 years, then Xbox is still very relevant and worth supporting.