Now that Yooka Laylee is essentially a critical failure... this is good time for Banjo Three!

[Mr Puggsly]

S.T.A.G.E. said:

Mr Puggsly said:

No, MS is doing 1st party games as well.

2nd party isn't a real thing, its technical BS. If they don't own the studio, its 3rd party developed regardless who owns the IP.

MS had to buy Gears because they didn't own it. They just had a deal for four games apparently. Epic even made Unreal Tournament 3 for PS3 during that period.

Bungie left MS to make an online Halo and to go multiplat. They thought they had the next Call of Duty. Bungie is full of shit, Destiny would be more Halo if they owned it.

I do agree MS needs more notable 1st party content, but they also succeed in genres I feel Sony is weak. So meh, that's why I own both consoles.

Yes...second party is the name for a company that is contracted to make a first party IP for a first party brand. MS had a deal because they wanted to keep Gears from Sony.  Sony already had plenty of games and wasnt running to PC developers to make exclusives, so MS had a whole garden of places to look for exclusive games. Sony was busy working on their own internal way of developing games when Microsoft got Miass Effect and made the deal with Bioware for exclusivity of the game on console since they published it. Buying gears was the smartest move Microsoft ever made because they cannot internally do any better (hence why stopped working on the new IP Black Tusk was making and rebranded the team with newly released Sony and irrational game developers(ontop of the team they already had) as the coalition. 

 Bungie left Microsoft because they valued their independence and wanted to work on other projects. Microsoft is the type of company that will become dependent on a surefire IP and milk it to death. Lucky for them, they know that we will still buy it if were fans. If I only owned an Xbox I would be more annoyed, but im not since I can take my focuse on any of the three brands games.

Again, 2nd party is just technical BS. Not a real thing.

Right, Gears was an exclusive deal for competitive reasons. You're stating the obvious.

MS's has the ability to create new IPs. They have money, they can get talent, they can make new IPs if they made the effort. Maybe they will down the road.

Everytime I see you in a Xbox thread you talk about how MS can't make new IPs. You've probably mentioned atleast a 1000 times on this forum. We all agree Sony is doing a better job at new IPs. You don't need to hammer that point every fucking post, its not even relevant to our discussion right now.

And here's the other thing you keep saying, MS milks their IPs. Again, I don't entirely disagree but its not relevant to this discussion. Its almost like you resort to that when you realize you're making poor arguments. "Oh man, my arguments are weak. I know, I'll attack MS's 1st party!"

Bungie left to make another Halo game,  Destiny is objectively an MMO Halo! Bungie is full of shit for saying they were tired of working on Halo... but essentially making another Halo. That was just spin because they don't own Halo, they wanted to make more Halo but not just with MS.