Did Sony make a mistake by be first to release an upgraded console.

[Mr Puggsly]

Intrinsic said:

KBG29 said:

I was taking into account new form factors. I fully believe Sony and Nintendo will put out more options to build out their ecosystem, considering how important their hardware and ecosystems are. It would not shock me to see a Portable PS4 next year, and a Switch Mini. Then a PS4 and XBO revision in 2019, followed by a Switch revision in 2020, and so on and so forth.

It just seems like we have reach a point where they are no longer trying to compete head to head at the same launch, and they are all willing to take time and try to capture the spot light in their own window.

Thats the thing though... what you are saying sin't possible either. People keep saying this thing a lot. A PS4 portable...... but when I see that I just think to myself that these people don't really know how hardware works.

The switch in docked mode has a peak power draw of around 17watts. Mind you, thats 17watts for the entire system so it covers everything that requires power to run in the switch and not just the APU. The PS4 on the other hand draws a max 140watt of power. Thats like 7 TIMES more power needed!!!! And this isn't even taking int consideration that sony would have to make cart versions of all its PS4 games or go all digital and still put in a significant sized nad flash module(s) in the unit (which is way more expensive than throwing in a HDD.

For there to be a PS4 portable, max power consumption has to come down to around 20watt. Even shifting to a 7nm node..... thats just not possible.

Mr Puggsly said:

1.That same argument could be made when the PS5 launches. Scropio will be a very capable box that's cheaper and it will share games with the next Xbox.

2. PS4 Pro specs upgrade just wasn't big enough. They should have made a better upgrade for $499. It would have been more capable, more desired, and the average user on budget would have bought a PS4 Slim anyway.

3. Sony hasn't made many mistakes this gen, but PS4 Pro underdelivered.

Alright, lets put our preferences aside here and be honest.

 

1. The same argument can't be made because of the CPU. When the new consoles come along, we are not ging to be looking at just significant GPU boosts compared to their older brothers. We are going to be looking at significant improvements in bothe the CPU and GPU. The better CPU means there are games that would be made that just wouldn't be possible to make on the PS4/PS4pro and the XB1s/XB1SC. That is what marks a generational jump as oppoed to an incremental one.
   
   
2. You see you contradicted yourself here. So they should have gone for broke and made a $499 machine for what would turn out to be less than 10% of their yearly sales? How does that make any sense. What they did was make a machne that give gamers a passable "4k" experience. So those that want to hop into 4k even those doing so on a budget, have a cheap budget minded 4k console to go with it. Unless of course you are trying to say that the more expensive hardware will always sell better.
   
   
3. Underdelivered how? What were you expecting? or what are you suggesting will happen with the scorpio. If you think the scorpio is somehow going to amount to 50% or more of the XB1's yearly total sales then you are in for a very big surprise. No one thats waited this long to buy a console is going to do so now because there are more expoensive versions of the already existing consoles on the market. The scorpio will sell primarily to people that already own an XB1 and care about upgrading. At least 90% of its sales will be made of those kinda gamers, as is the case with the PS4pro.

 

1. We'll have to wait and see if the new console CPUs are total game changer. I don't think that will be the case.

2. PS4 Pro is a contradiction. Its the premium console for 4K TVs, but it too rarely does 4K. Passable resolution, sure. But again a more capable console that did 4K and even did a better job boosting performance in non-Pro games would have been more desireable. $499 is still pretty reasonable for a premium device designed to work on cutting edge TVs. For those on a budget, get a PS4 Slim.

3. PS4 Pro underdelivered for a premium console. Which is why you see a lot of people saying its not a big enough improvment to justify the purchase. Again, I believe people wanted more power with the Pro.