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Soundwave said:
StarOcean said:
No way Revenge of the Sith is less than TFA. I call bullshit on that. And same goes for RotJ over RotS

RoTS still has a lot of clunk dialogue and terrible acting ... case in point it's the only Star Wars movie that somehow manages to embarass Darth Vader. 

The whole Anakin Skywalker "turn to the Dark Side" is pretty fucking stupid and weak dramatically too because it's hillariously rushed (largely because Lucas so poorly wrote the previous two films):

Anakin's "Bad Day"

8 AM - Good Guy

11 AM - Good Guy

2:30 PM - Good Guy, feeling good after lunch

4:30 PM - Uh oh, Palpatinez teh Sith Lord!

6:30 PM - AW FUCK IT! GUESS IMMA GONNA HAVE TO KILL A BUNCH OF KIDS NOW 

lol, c'mon Lucas. 

 

Jedi is underrated in many ways IMO, the Emperor/Vader/Luke scenes are better than anything else in the Star Wars saga and yes that includes even the best scenes from Empire. 

"Sister ... so you have a twin sister ..." is the most delciously evil line in all the Star Wars movies, you can almost see Vader smile underneath his mask and the Emperor is such a wonderful, unnerving embodiment of the Dark Side. Think about what they did in ROTJ for a second ... they create a character who instantly has street cred as someone waaaaay more evil than even Darth Vader. None of the new Star Wars movies (not even TFA or Rogue One) can come close to claiming anything like that. 

Yeah, the love for Sith has always confused me. Not because it's a terrible movie -- it's poor to fair in my mind -- but because it's not all that different from the first two prequels. The writing is still clumsy, the acting wooden, the direction lazy, the cinematography uninspired, the characters unapproachable. The pacing is better and the action more exciting, but I don't believe that makes up for all its moviemaking sins.

And you nailed the part about Anakin's turn. This is probably the most pivotal moment in the series and yet it falls flat. We never see that good-friend family man seduced by power. We see a fearful, angry young man throw his life away over a vaguely defined myth about immortality. It was unconvincing, it was rushed, and because we as an audience don't particularly care for Anakin, it was dramatically inert.