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Miyamotoo on 22 March 2017
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DélioPT said:
Miyamotoo said:

You said itself that they already done that with 2DS and actuality with Switch there will be even bigger need for cheaper version. Like I wrote, huge difference is that Switch has much higher price point than any other Nintendo handheld and already has huge screen, so basically opposite compared to 3DS and DS, and that's exactly why there is no need for bigger of more expensive Switch but actually there will be huge need for smaller and cheaper Switch, especially when 3DS dies.

I really don't see how you cant understand that cheaper Switch will be replacement for for price point that currently held 3DS on market. Currently is too soon, but moment 3DS dies (next year) it will right time.

But point is that will be cheaper Switch when 3DS dies. I am 100% confident in that, because that totally make sense and totally goes with Nintendo plans of one platform with multiple devices that are all part of that same platform. You need to realise that Switch Mini/Pocket is not difrent paltform, it will basically be smaller Switch just for handheld play. There will be Switch Mini/Pocket maybe at end of next year on market. Offcooruse that not all 3DS owner will migrate to Switch or that are willing to pay $300.

Again, Switch compared to 3DS and DS, Switch on launch has much higher price and huge screen, so opposite to DS and 3DS. So they will actually need smaller and cheaper Switch first on market, not more expensive and bigger. You don't need You Cons, you can built in controllers.

 

Your point is wrong because Wii U actually had games like Batman, Fifa, Call Of Duty, Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, Need For Speed, NBA...on launch, but those 3rd party that made those games abandoned platform after terrible sales. Those 3rd party start abandoning platform after they saw how bad Wii U sales, Of situation was opposite and Wii U actually selling great, you would see more 3rd party on board.

Done what with 2DS?
All i said it came out at last for a cheaper price tag and that 2DS was 3DS without a 3D screen (i was making a comparison of what you can and can't take out for Switch mini).

Switch Pro doesn't necessarily need a big screen, but it does need better battery and more power (for the reasons i explained in another post).

"Currently is too soon, but moment 3DS dies (next year) it will right time."
They already said they are still thinking about a handheld. It won't come anytime soon.
Second, for some reason you ignored how DS and 3DS were treated. The prices went up, not down, when, by your logic, Nintendo should have placed them at 99-129 (for example) first.
So, i don't understand why you expect Nintendo to bring so soon a cheaper version - and could even they do it in a way that would allow them to cut 100-150 dollars?

Your idea of a Switch Mini has got nothing to do with the family of systems, specially when you take out the joy-cons.
And if Nintendo can sell two Switch models, one at 250 and another at 300, and still be successful at it, why should they have a model at 150-200 and another at 300 and lose profits?
For some reason you assume that lower price points bring costumers that a higher price tag can't bring.
If that was true, sales of PS4 wouldn't be so high right now, yet they are. And i remember reading about how devs weren't expecting gamers to migrate so fast from the old to the new generation.

You are ignoring what the appeal of a product can do to it's sales, the fact that Nintendo has a history (2DS and 3DS) of introducing better and/or more expensive HW and how, by introducing a cheaper Switch, Nintendo would lose price leverage - and profits, too.

Ok, you saw those games at launch and about all those others that were never announced or came out for Wii U (launch window included)? 
Decision to fully support a console isn't something you decide based on what the console sells on launch or launch window. Those deals - or lack of them - are made months and years before a launch.

With 2DS they offered cheaper version of 3DS platform. Like I wrote, of course you can take 3D screen from Switch, but you can take TV mode, Dock and detachable Joy Cons and offer cheaper version of Switch.

Like I wrote, we will eventually have Switch 2 or Pro, but point is there is no need for stronger and more expensive version of Switch any time soon, but actually there will be need for cheaper and smaller version when 3DS dies.

Fact that they said they always thinking about next handheld could mean anything that doesn't mean they will make another or that they want make another. Like I wrote, that was unspecific PR talk beacuse its obvious they dont want to talk about that yet, its just a PR talk, you relley dont need to pay atention of unspecific PR talk of Nintendo.

I don't ignored how DS and 3DS are treatment, but you clearly ignoring fact Switch is hybrid not just handheld, that DS and 3DS had much smaller screens on launch and had much cheaper price points, so making more bigger/expensive version of DS/3DS totally made sense, but with Switch we have hybrid, you already have huge screen and already have high price point compared to previous handhelds, so its very obvious that in case of Switch totaly make sense to realase smaller/cheaper version not actualy more bigger/expensive version, that will made even more sense when 3DS dies.

Like I wrote, they can cut around $100 with cutting TV mode from Switch, Dock and detachable Joy Cons and some other things that are requred for TV mode.

Offcourse that Switch MIni/Pocket would be part of Switch platform, it will play same games. Joy Cons doesn't have anything with that, you realise that you can use Switch without Joy Cons with Pro Controller for instance.

Nintendo coud sell regualar Switch for $250-300 and Switch Mini/Pocket for $150-200. Difrence would be aroung $100, not $150. Like I wrote at least 5x times to you, beacuse not all people are wiling to pay $300 Switch and TV mode, but they would be willing to pay around $200, you do realise that majority 3DS owners paid for 3DS around $150-200 and of course that not all would be willing to pay $300 for Switch.

"For some reason you assume that lower price points bring costumers that a higher price tag can't bring"!? Are you serious!? For tenth time, offcourse that not alllhandhedl lowers wouldnt pay $300 for Switch and TV mode beacuse thats too expansive for them and they dont need TV mode. Ask your self, why 3DS has price point from $80-100 to $200, because they know they aiming different segments of market with different price points, not every consumer should pay $200 for 3DS thats why you have cheaper versions. Like I wrote, Sony managed things totaly difence than Nitnendo, Nintendo is one that always had multiple price points on market in same time, Sony always had usually had just one price point, Nintendo curently on market covers price point from $80-100 to $300, it's clearly you don't know what are you talking and how Nintendo operates and think (fact you constantly bringing Sony in this story proves that) if you think they will abonend more affordable price point with Switch and only offer $300 price point.

Like I wrote, you need to realise that Nintendo platforms always had worse 3rd party support (actually from SNES gen) compared to competition, and that actually Wii U had solid 3rd party support for Nintendo platform with games that I mentioned, but Wii U loosed that support after terrible sales in 1st year.

 

This really doesn't make any sense, you clearly ignoring things that I wrote for you or you forgetting them, you keep writing things on that I already gave clear answers, in fact for some things I wrote you 5x same answers but you again act like you didn't see that and again wrote same thing even its clearly I already gave you answer on that multiply times. So I really don't see any point arguing with you, because I already gave you clear answers on everything you wrote, just look what I already wrote to you in previous post or in some post earlier.