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archer9234 said:
Peh said:

1. They cannot acommodate to every single one out there. There will always be someone who will nitpick or don't like certain features in a game. I and most other people on the other hand don't see this mechanic at an issue at all. If you don't like it, then I can't help you. It is like it is. If they would change it to something different, I will bet my ass that other people will still complain about it.

1. Except that the previous system was done, for decades. And worked fine.

2. The old Zelda games had 1-2 swords at most and a few games had some upgrades to it. It is still and foremost an adventure game and not a RPG.  But again, what's the point of exploring if most of the strong weapons are hidden behind not accessable parts of the game and appear later at certain locations you already visited before. This would ruin the exploration aspect. Nintendo wanted to get rid of most limitations you had like linearity. Without breaking the game you had to adjust and add certain mechanics to keep the motivation of exploration in the game high. And for me, it did it. The moment I've acquired a really strong weapon I was full of joy, because the journey was a bit more easier from now on, even if it is only temporarily, but this doesn't have to be the case. You can use the stronger weapons for stronger enemies, and attain their weapons as well. If you waste your good weapons on poor enemies, well, then I can't do much about it. It's your choice.

2. So you're saying you didn't explore every other Zelda game, in the past. Soley because it was gated off? You didn't try to find heart pieces, ruppes, push objects. Us the rumble pack, to find hidden rooms. Get the candle, or find the raft. These are all present in the past games. And makes you explore just fine. BOTW is still linear. Because certain shrines can't be beaten. Unless you have certain health levels, or enough/good weapons. Which would require the inventory upgrades. So it's still forcing to tackle it later. And not when you want to do it. You could tackle these shrines. If, we didn't have the weapon durrability. Because we could last out the entire fight. 

This also causes cumbersome problems that past Zelda games didn't have to worry about. What is the primary role of the game. To figure out puzzles and fight patterns. A lot of these puzzles, you gotta test things. Take statis: You try out boulders in the shrine. But you where doing the wrong thing. You just wasted weapons. You reach the final section. You're out. Now, you're forced to leave, and farm stuff. This breaks pace of your game. In the past Zelda games. This did happen. But, only to arrows and bombs. Pots mitigated force leaving, to help. I'm not complaining that it makes it harder. It doesn't. What BOTW really does. Is a mastery, to waste your time. That's the key to the frustration.

Same goes for boss fights. You first have to figure out what it does. And what to hit. When you finally do. I have to end up dying. So I can get back my weapons. Than reload. Or have to leave and get stuff. Whenever I get into a main fight. And see the heath bar move very little. I abadon the battle. Because, I know I can't win. I don't have enough weapons. So I force a death. I don't even care that I have only 4 hearts. Once I memorize the pattern. I can dodge the one hit kills. I can't dodge weapons being used up. This game design basically wants you to pull up a walkthrough up. Than I know what shrines, to not attempt. Till I have X amount of slots and hearts.

1. You didn't seem to have followed the discussion about the linearity and handholding in Zelda throughout the last years.

2. That's a non sequitar.

I am talking about weapons, not hearts, rupees or whatever you like to throw into the equation. I haven't found a single shrine which I couldn't beat, because of the need of progressing further in the story first. I even walked pretty early on to the shrine at the sea in the far east of the map. This shrines contains the so far strongest enemy in all shrines I have encountered so far. I've been in 88 shrines by now. I had only 5 hearts and the strongest weapon was 32 dmg and I managed to beat it after the 3rd try by carefully observing the enemies behaviour and got access to 60 dmg weaponry really early on. It certainly took some time, but I still succeeded. No enemy during that time was a real challenge until the weapon broke. I could've use this as an exploit if the game didn't stopped it for me.

So far, you can beat lynels with only 3 hearts. But with lower weapon dmg, it is just more challenging and takes a bit longer. Everyone place the game differently and you have to adjust the game to most of playstyles.



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