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Turkish said:
Goatseye said:

Netherlands is sovereign enough to be respected when they ask Turkey not to hold political rallies in the country. Especially, days before national election.

Why would they even ask that? Dont they believe in free speech? I thought Netherlands was a democracy, or does it only apply to them and their friends. There have been rallies elsewhere in Europe and they happened without any problems, also many times in the past.

Johnw1104 said:

So has it been conclusively determined that the military did indeed attempt a coup? I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist but the attempt was simultaneously so weak and so convenient for Erdogan (allowing him to clean house, install his own supporters, and greatly expand his authority) that I can't help but be rather suspicious.

The military was essentially charged with preventing autocracy and has done so numerous times so it certainly isn't out of the question that they attempted to again, but Erdogan would likewise have known that he'd eventually have to deal with them for precisely this reason. That man's behavior has suggested for years that he's a not-very-closeted autocrat at heart.

The military didn't support the coup, only a tiny fraction, which was controlled by Gulenists who have their own plans and agenda for the country.

The Netherlands has the right to prevent hate spreading by foreign parties like hate imams bt bsnning them. Turkey also has a law against campaigning in foreign countries. Considering they called the Germans Nazi's and facists a week before  and they speak ill of Europe  for a lot longer the Netherlands has a valid point for not wanting them here. So yes the Netherlands is democracy us only for its friends you know what isn't the internet, except in countries as Turkey where media that doesn't agree with Erdogan is banned as is the Dutch ambassador btw.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar