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Locknuts said:
VGPolyglot said:

Voluntary in the sense that they agree to it in a contract, involuntary in the sense that if they don't submit to the rich people who control the economy they will be forced into poverty and starvation. It's also funny how apparently the wealthy are getting "punished" for having higher taxes. Those poor souls who make 3 million a year instead of 4 million a year!

Taxation is punishment. It's a gangster shakedown. If you don't pay eventually people with guns are going to come to your house and take you away. If you resist them you could very easily be shot or killed. To me that's quite a punishment - your money or your life. Now that's what I call involuntary.

Also, there are many ways of making money legitimately out there. It's not like there is one factory owner in the whole of the USA and if you don't take 5c an hour to buy your family a bag of wheat every month you are going to starve to death. People actually compete for good workers. If you're good with money, live in a country like the US and work hard, it would be almost impossible to be poor.

The problem is not that some people are rich, it's that some people are poor. But the solution is not to steal from the rich and give it to the poor.

No one is saying we should steal from the rich. What we are saying however is that perhaps the United States may have flaws in certain areas which makes people unable to escape poverty (or barely erase it from their lives). 

 

Now, will we ever eradicate poverty completely? No. Also, some people are poor for a reason. The majority of us however want to help those who actually strive to not become poor. People who work full time and yet require financial assistance are the poor ones that we want to help. 

 

I don't mind paying taxes. As long as it isn't wasted, then I'm fine. I live in a state with very high taxes, but it pays off with the majority of the state being an amazing place to live  (especially the urban regions).