Do you like the Switch as a handheld?

[bonzobanana]

NATO said:

bonzobanana said:

There's nothing on that circuit board of value. It probably costs less than $1 to make. The Raspberry pi zero is made in the uk which is very expensive to manufacture compared to China by a long way and retails at £4 including more performance than a wii or 3DS. In that price is VAT, profit for the raspberry pi foundation, profit for reseller and maybe other costs. The only reason Nintendo is charging $90 is because Nintendo thinks they can. It could profitably be sold for £20 I'm sure if they wanted to even allowing for the psu. We may even find that third parties produce a cheap compatible dock at a fraction of the price as I'm not sure there is any proprietory hardware there at all. Nintendo charges what the market will bear which is not related to manufacturing cost as much as people think. I suspect from Nintendo's perspective they believe by charging $90 seperately they have added perceived value to the Switch as a package plus they make a ton of money for those who want to use a Switch in two rooms. My android tablet was £69.99 with a 10.1" 1280x720 ips screen, octocore cpu beyond the cpu performance of Switch by a long way but only 2GB memory, 16GB storage and a gpu of about 50 gflops where as Nintendo will be charging £80 for a plastic box with a psu in the UK.  You remove the dock from the Switch box and it would probably only reduce the console price by $20.

The BOM cost for the VL210-Q4 is more than the price of the Pi Zero on it's own.

Why would you even argue the value of the board without even knowing the components used? you can't just pluck a random PCB out of thin air then compare the cost like that.

You've lost me why on earth would you think s a small usb i.c. would cost more than about 10-20 cents at most when you are buying millions of them and they are small simplistic chips. The raspberry pi zero is a full computer and that chip is only probably $2 approx which incorporates 512MB of ram, 1ghz cpu, gpu, usb controller, hdmi controller etc. All that Switch board has to do is provide usb sockets and a hdmi connection and is merely an interface to the main electronics built into the Switch tablet itself. 

The reason I've used the Raspberry pi is because a) we know its expensively made in the UK which means its more expensive than producing in China and b) its far more sophisticated electronics too providing a huge amount of additional functionality to make the point that the dock circuit board is incredibly cheap in comparison unless Nintendo are the most pathetic price negotiator's in the history of the universe.

Yet if I went to a electronics part retailer in the uk and tried to source all the parts on the Raspberry pi zero board excluding the pcb and the main soc chip I'd probably end up paying £20 just for those small components because a surface mounted fuse that costs them 1/10 of a penny would probably be sold to me for 30p etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkdK6D4yqzk