Opinion: Microsoft should delay Scorpio until Holiday 2018 and call it Xbox 2

[KBG29]

Turkish said:

KBG29 said:
I think it is funny that people think there will be some kind of magical leap between PS4/PS4 Pro, and devices with Zen, a 10 - 12TFLOP GPU, and 16GB RAM.

The only thing that is going to get us is PS4/XBO games in native 4K, and a stable frame rate.

I still 100% believe that we should see PS4 and XBO Revision 3 in 2019 - 2020 with the above mentioned specs. Let these systems fully embrace 4K and PSVR 2/Version 2 first gen VR devices at 1440p.

For real Next gen, I think 2024 is about right. Give us devices with 25 - 30TFLOP GPU, 8 Core/16 Thread CPU, 128GB of RAM, and SSD with SATA Express or m.2 NVMe. That will give us a massive leap in what is possible in 4K, and be capable of delivering a truly next gen level on both TV and VR.

Nah. PS4 times 4 times its resolution=~7.2Tflopz,  so with ~5 extra Tflopz it should be more than enough for a big leap

So if we are to get PS4 quality exclusives in 4K, PS5 needs to be a console thats only 1Tflopz stronger than Scorpio. But I dont expect Sony to bruteforce 4K. Rather, they'll probbaly hone their checkerboard rendering technique, therefore leaving much more breathing room for next gen graphical effects. The Pro with its 4.2Tflopz demonstrates its adequate enough for 4K like gaming. A console thats 3x faster should give us a next gen leap.

So PS5 launch in 2019-2020, then PS6 in 2025-2026, by then the resolution wars will end because 8K is probably gonna take decades to catch on, even movies aren't shot at that high resolution.

I think we are at a point where we need much more power to make any significant difference. With what I am seeing from PS4 to PS4 Pro, I can not see a 10 - 12TFLOP device really making me excited, especially if it only has 16 - 24GB of RAM

As far as resolution goes, I think VR changes everything. 4K on a TV is really good, and I think 8K will pretty much be the plato point there. However, in VR more resolution is a major factor. Right now PSVR is 100 FOV at 1080p. We need to get to about 160 degree FOV to reach full saturtaion in the virtual space. This means we are going to have to have a large leap in resolution just to maintaine the same IQ as the FOV grows. I don't think we will see VR really start to plato until probably 12K or maybe even 16K. 

That is what is going to push the need for more and more power. The ability to display better VR worlds, and track movement, and feed back data from whatever new sensors they end up bringing to help further the emersion in the virtual space.