Late shows on Trump's first solo press conference

[Slimebeast]

Scoobes said:

Slimebeast said:

1. This can't be serious. Why is the left outraged by the building of a wall then? The outrage all over the world about Trump's racist policies.

The truth is that Trump has brought up immigration on a completely new level in the public debate, all over the West. Without even actually changing any concrete policy yet.

2. Give me a break. Fox news alone against CNN, NBC, New York Times, Washington post, Hollywood.

And it would be hard to reform the school system like you propose. Schools and universities are infiltrated by leftist propaganda since the 1960's, not just in America but all over the West. The education system is the main outlet for socialist brainwash.

3. We will see what happenes, but I'm hoping for a more dynamic landscape in world politics thanks to Trump. I'd rather at least have the chance, than a guaranteed status quo.

1. Compare the US vetting procedures compared to other Western democracies. It's easy enough to check.

And you don't have to be on the left to be against the wall. There are plenty of things wrong with the wall regardless of political affiliation (e.g. expensive, unlikely to be effective as evidenced by the walls that are currently in place on the border, private landowners refusing to sell land for wall building, expensive geographical challenges, alienation of a neighbouring ally etc.).

The outrage over the blanket ban was because there was no evidence that current vetting procedures weren't working (unless you can provide any evidence). The vast majority of terrorist attacks in the US since 9/11 were from people that were US citizens or had been living in the US for a prolonged period of time (and the 9/11 terrorists were nearly all from Countries not on the list). There is no evidence they had come through US immigration. Secondly, the blanket ban was actually illegal, so of course people were angry about it. Finally, what was the blanket ban actually going to achieve? It kept out academics and prevented companies from getting in their own skilled employees. If it was purely about security then a number of countries in Europe (Britain, France, Belgium) should also have been listed as the terrorists that have attacked the West have been citizens of those countries.  

2. Fox has huge coverage though. Plus you're forgetting the New York Post. 

And for the education system it doesn't have to be political. Analytical thinking and the ability to critique isn't by its nature subject to political bias.

And what do you mean by leftist propaganda?

3. What do you mean by dynamic landscape in world politics? I just see the US becoming more isolationist and speeding up China's desire to become a superpower. 

I'm not gonna comment anymore if you spin things.

1. Vetting procuders are beside this point. It's a non issue to my argument. It's as if you deny the whole massive flood of criticism against Trump based on him being against immigration and being isolationist. By people who are "antiracist", "tolerant", "multicultural" etc etc etc. It's the single biggest thing that leftists are upset about with Trump, his agenda against immigration.

2. "Fox has huge coverage though". Fox is just one channel. Media as a whole is dominated by the left.

Don't lecture me on how the education system should be. I am saying that right now, the education systems are spewing leftist propaganda to young people all over the world. Of course at the same time, they are able to convey some understanding of critical thinking in general in many topics. It's not a contradiction. They still brainwash people on political and social issues.

"Leftist propaganda". Sorry, but I'm too tired to give a definition now. I have argued about this at length on this forum for years and written pages of texts about it.

3. Yes, the rise of China, despite its evil, as a counter-balance against "Merkel" (Merkel as a symbol of the current world order) is a good example of the new world order I am hoping for.