potato_hamster said:
SegataSanshiro said:
Your comparison sucks. NES had the market cornered but SNES lost half the share with Genesis and others. Home console different beast. That was a period of what 6 years they owned the market when the console market was still in infancy? Nintendo has owned the handheld market since 1989. 28 years. Sony SEGA Atari some of the bigest names ever tried to take on Nintendo in the handheld market MULTIPLE times and EACH time failed to take it from them. Hell the largest cell phone manufacture for the time Nokia failed twice. PS1 beat SEGA and Nintendo day 1 when the console market was still young. Genesis cut into NES market DAY ONE. Now handhelds are not as popular as they were even a decade ago. Sony has tried twice to take the market away from Nintendo and both times came up short. Yes PSP sold well but still left in the dust by DS. No one has come close. No one can as long as they use the same failed approach of just more power. Gunpei Yokoi is a legend for a reason with his philosophy to hardware Nintendo has followed for 3 decades. It works. If you are going to try and beat Nintendo at the handheld market,find a better strategy because the one everyone else has used for 28 years isn't working.
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The home console market was still in it's infancy? That seems odd considering the famicom came out 11 years after the release of Pong.Nintendo was on it's third home console by the time the Playstation was released. By that same logic, I suppose the handheld market was still in it's infancy when Sony released the PSP *just* 15 years after the release of the gameboy in 1989, or does 4 years make all of the difference in the world, considering the DS was also Nintendo's third handheld? Either way, that's some fuzzy logic.
As for the PSP, how on earth was the PSP a failure? How is selling 80 million systems being "left in the dust"? It's ridiculous. Put the PSP up against the Gameboy Advance and Nintendo beats it by less than a million. Put it up against the 3DS, and the PSP "leaves it in the dust" as you so put it. The PSP cut into Nintendo's handheld market from day one as well, it's just that the DS sold extraordinarily well despite the PSP making a massive dent in it.
PS. Gunpei Yokoi, was the legendary mastermind behind the Gameboy as well as the Virtual Boy. It just goes to show that even legends can have bad ideas. Besides, is Gunpei Yokoi's philosophy of "lateral thinking with withered technology" actually seen today in devices like the Switch? The technology behind the Switch certainly hasn't matured, it isn't well understood, and this definitely, definitely isn't a new way of using the technology as we've seen by patents and devices that have utilized this technology in similar ways years before the Switch was conceived. But hey, I guess they kinda did apply it with the 3DS considering the 3D feature of the 3DS was so underwhelming and disliked Nintendo actually made a version of the 3DS that came without it. So there's that.
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Again SNES was no juggernaut. NES was. SNES was not. Genesis was beating Nintendo for a little while and PC Engine was rocking it in japan,Both cut deep deep into Nintendo so yes 6 years own the console market. SNES only started to pull ahead when SEGA blundered with CD and 32X. Pong clones were not real consoles unless you count plug n play systems and Tiger Handhelds as the real thing as well. You think time is the only factor. Wrong. Odyssey was a a square dt=ot on a screen with overlays. Atari and Coleco and Intellvision had no standards between console hardware and game design and how you control them. Even in NES era that stuff was just begining to come together. So yes NES is still in console infancy,NES gave us standards in hardware game design and how you control the game. I never said PSP wa sa failure but it was still left in the dust by 154 million DS sold. So it was still a distant last place. Also if you think just adding more power will one day work.
Good luck to that. Some Colin Moriaty logic there. Facts speak for themselves. 28 years Nintendo has dominated the handheld market because everyone else has taken the same approach, add more power. There is good reason Nintendo handhelds always own the market. They keep it within reach and add just enough to make it new. They know how to balance it.
Also I will say it again. I like my PSP and Vita more than my DS and 3DS but facts are facts. No one has or ever will beat them if they take the same approach that has failed for 30 years. I am done with this convo because you can't dispute the facts so not bothering with this topic after this.
