Wow maybe Sony was right about Blu-ray?

[Reasonable]

disolitude said:

Euphoria14 said:

Reasonable said:

disolitude said:
The thing about bluray is that its great technology. Its awesome to have a 50 GB storage capacity on a optical media... what isn't aweosme is that they are trying to push this technology on the normal/average consumer. The technology will come to light when its affordable enough and ready for the mainstream.

I suspect it will have far move practical use in the computer world than in the Movie world as Indiana Jones:the crystal skull is an average movie no matter what resolution you watch it at...

But Sony should have waited for the mainstream push until they could give us blank disks for 5 bucks a pop and burners for 100 bucks.

Err... in actual fact its the norm for technology to release before the mainstream is ready.  Cassette tapes - expensive (at first), CDs - expensive (at first) and recording your own, sorry you'll have to wait for that, VHS - expensive (at first), DVD - expensive (at first) and recording your own, sorry you'll have to wait for that.

BR is no different.  Eventually it will get cheaper, you'll get BR recorders, etc.  But no way would the electronics giants wait until they got it all affordable - that's simply not how the market works nor how its ever worked.

New tech = expensive for first 2 years and early adopters only, then mainstream adoption (if its succeeds and doesn't disappear).  The point being made in the OP is that BR, given this cost and looking back to DVD adoption, seems to be growing at a more than acceptable pace vs previous formats such as DVD adoption over VHS format.

I know a lot of gamers didn't want the PS3 with BR because they didn't want that cost but at the end of the day businesses like Sony make their choies and you vote with your money.  If you don't want it at all you don't buy, if you want it at a lower price then you have to wait the 2 years or so that normally takes, if you want it now you buy it now.

When I think on how much the first Betamax and VHS players cost vs their specs... never mind the cost of the first CD and DVD burners...

 

 You know what would have happened to DVD if they listened to his opinion? Think of DVD first coming out in 2001 as opposed to 1997.

We would be in a completely different situation right now, considering PS2 games would all run on CD's.

Why don't people stop whining and just... I don't know... wait till prices drop? As millions did with DVD players, CD players, VHS players, etc...

You guys are silly. I never said that bluray should not have been released when it was made...however, bundling it with the succesor to the best selling console of all time at such an early stage of blurays life cycle was dumb. We all see how thats worked out for Sony...

You can talk market penetration...stats...DVD vs bluray sales...whatever else justifies the success of bluray.  The bottom line is, Bluray has offered nothing to gaming thus far...and we gamers are picking up the tab for the technology to become more mainstream. Unless you own sony stock and are happy about them getting this technology to 12 million people who bought a ps3 at atleast 100 dollars more per unit...or you like watching bluray movies and don't mind paying the price for your HD content....you have nothing really to be happy about for getting bluray as gamers.

How is my post Silly?

It responded fairly to your point on Sony waiting to release BR (which was what you said, not the actually clearler point you then made regarding wisdom of putting something so new in their next console rather than releasing it with standalone players only)...

It acknowledged that from a purely gaming perspective a lot of people were less than thrilled Sony put brand new (as in expensive new) tech their new console vs the lower cost DVD format...

I pointed out that like all consumers while its fair to have your opinion they are going to ignore it as they are following their own plan (right or wrong) and that like all consumers you vote with your wallet....

I kind of wish PS3 was less expensive and had DVD rather than BR but it doesn't so I have to decide whether I buy it or not on that basis.  One thing seems certain which is that its never not going to have BR in it so there's little point complaining now.

Although as a film fan I have to admit love it (HD quality films that is, not necessarily the somewhat slippery format that is BR just yet).  I agree about Indy  but Blade Runner and many other astonishing visual films look way better in HD than DVD (and that includes upscaling) on a 1080p HD TV so I see plenty of movie fans being interested in BR once the price drops... after all unlike DVD to VHS BR to DVD is backwards compatible so you don't have to repurchase films you can keep your existing collection and just add new films in BR.

At the end of the day Sony are just like MS, etc. and make decisions for themselves, not really us the consumer.  I suspect PS3 got BR more to give them an additional edge vs HD DVD although I may be doing them an injustice and they really wanted their console to have BR because they believed it was best in the long run... who knows.  But you can bet they thought it was worth it for Sony when they made the decision (whether it turns out to be won't be known for year or two yet IMHO).