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TheAkutsu said:
m_csquare said:

Wait sm4sh DLC is great now? if so, then SF5 DLC deserves a fckin gold medal 

that is exagerated.
Smash 4 dlc definetely is better for one reason : lack of necessity due to the already good amount of characters even without it. 

If you want that stage that was present in a previous iteration of Smash, or you want Cloud/Bayo, you may be tempted, but you have an already huge cast of character. Where SFV's cast is ridiculously low, (way way way) lower than SFIV and the new characters need to be paid ? That is the outrage.
And sure you can "just" play till you have enough fighting point on a character.
But a lot don't feel like doing that, specially when their main is a now a DLC character.

If you plan an answering somebody was maining a former Smash character than is now a DLC, it goes down to Lucas/mewtwo that aren't top tier. (when Bayo/Cloud are)

yet all this doesn't make it pay to win, and I do not think it makes SFV pay to win either, Karin/Vega being really good for instance and not DLC.

But the lack of characters by default sure make it lame on SFV for new chars to be addionnal fee.

we are talking strictly abt dlc. Beside the amt of chars dont mean much on fighting games if the balance is all over the place