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hudsoniscool said:

I also think they peaked. The pro just released so it should be up YOY. I think if there was NO PRO and it was priced at 250 it would still be down.

Is it just me or does everyone that references the Pro having just released forget that it costs ~$150 more than the PS4s.

Even worse, the core messaging for the pro is this, if this is for 4k gaming, you are playing the same games, but if you don't have a 4k TV there is no need to buy a Pro.

If there was no pro.... then the PS4s would have been priced at $250 from the get go and would have been as low as $220 or less through the holidays.

I also think people are forgetting that games like RDR2 or GTA6 or Gran Turismo and God of war are yet to release this year. Simply put, the PS4 has been riding on the backs of new Ips and one or two stellar older Ips. All sony's first party and the major third party console movers (outside call of duty) has not made an appearance yet this gen.