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potato_hamster on 09 February 2017
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RolStoppable said:
potato_hamster said:

No of course not. But still your point of view is one of arrogance, where you continue to think that your opinion is objectively right, and acting like you're manipulating people with your obvious troll post, and then blessing people with wisdom after they reacted to your nonsense as you predicted, all the while shaming them for having a differing opinion to your own.

No one thinks that all games should be the same. No one thinks that all games should have the same feature set. This is a straw man you created in your head. Your initial troll that Horizon isn't worth $60 because it doesn't features that other $60 games have is ridiculous. That game is worth $60 only to the people willing to pay $60 for it. If that game comes out and only sells 100K copies in its first week, then clearly the market feels that game wasn't worth $60. It doesn't mean that the people that were willing to spend $60 on it were wrong, and it doesn't mean that those who weren't willing to spend $60 on it because it didn't have multiplayer, or because the character wasn't customizable were wrong either.

Like anything, games are only worth what people are willing to pay for them, and people saying that they're not willing to pay $50 for 1-2 Switch or $60 for any other game doesn't mean they're not being open-minded or unreasonable by deciding that those games aren't worth the MSRP to them. It's not elitist for having an opinion on what they're willing to spend their money on and what value games have to them, but it is elitist to think they're wrong for not having the same opinion as yourself.

If anything, maybe the lesson to learn from this is that you need to do a better job respecting the opinions of other people.

Like I said, you aren't the victim. You are the aggressor.

In an earlier post you made the claim that 1-2-Switch won't sell well. Here you argue that sales determine if the price of a game is justified, but you've already made up your mind. That is not the attitude of an openminded person. If 1-2-Switch was a video games that we could easily compare to others, then it would be possible to make a definitive call on it. But considering that it's really nothing like anything that came before it, the sensible thing to do would be taking a wait-and-see approach. The same holds true for the Switch console itself.

Also, I am convinced that you wouldn't have had an issue with this thread if I had used Zelda.

Just so we're clear here, because I'm not willing to spend $50 on 1-2 Switch, I'm not being open minded about it. It's not because I watched the unveiling at the Switch reveal, it's not because I watched a bunch of preview videos, including all of the official mini game videos, it's not because I saw Greg Miller and Hideo Kojima play it at an event. It's not because I own and have played a "videoless video game" in the form of "Johann Sebastian Joust" and wasn't a fan of it. None of that is enough. I have to spend money on it in order to be able to determine whether or not the game is personally worth $50 to me. The game is worth $50 because you are willing to spend $50 on it to try it out. Anyone who disagrees or refuses to do so like you are obviously closed-minded.

Let's apply that logic to other media:
See a trailer for movie and decide you'd rather not see it in theatre, or buy it on Blu-ray? Closed minded.
Read the back of a book and decide you'd rather not buy it? Closed minded.
See a poster for a theatrical production and decide you'd rather not see it? Closed minded.

There you go. That means that literally everyone on the planet that doesn't have taste and isn't willing to consume any other type of media is closed minded based on your flawed opinion on open-mindedness.  But thanks for gracing us once again with your poorly though out wisdom.