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Soundwave said:

Did you seriously even use the term "d-pad" in the 80s? I never really heard that used much until really the SNES came around. It was just "Nintendo controller". We didn't care about any of that shit, we just played the games and the games were what was important. 

But it was never "ah man, you have to buy a NES because it has a d-pad!". Lol. You had to have a NES because it had Ninja Turtles and Mario and Mike Tyson and Contra and Ghouls N' Ghosts, etc. etc. etc.

I also had one of these bad boys, so it's not like the joystick was completely forgotten. 

The biggest difference in the NES to me and to many people I think wasn't really even the controller. It was that you were going from this shit:

To NES games that had real scrolling environments and real music (not just blips and bleeps) and even stories in some cases was monumentally earth shattering.

The d-pad itself though ... I mean by the late 80s everything had some variant of a d-pad on it, Sega had a direction pad, even those cheap Tiger toys, any kid who grew up in the 80s will likely remember these: 

There's a lot of 20-something (or even teenager) Nintendo fans who think they know what it was like in the NES era ... not saying you, but a lot of these people don't have a freaking clue, lol. The 80s/early 90s Nintendo era was very different. Very, very different from today. 

Man, you make the case for me. You're saying it yourself. Nintendo brought forth the D-Pad and everything that came after adopted it.

It's like you don't even follow your own arguments anymore. xD


And TMNT (1989) came out long after the NES was a thing. Which gives me proof enough that you came into the 3rd gen consoles at a later age than me. Which means that your memory is that of a late 3rd gen adopter at best. So nobody should give any credit to your anecdotal "evidence".