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Zekkyou on 08 February 2017
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Alkibiádēs said:
Zekkyou said:

Even ignoring that FF15's development was far from normal (even for Final Fantasy), comparisons like this are silly. Zelda's home console entries release even slower than Final Fantasy, should we mock Nintendo for also having hundreds of people spending years working on a game that'll be outsold every year by Pokemon? Of course not, because that'd be ridiculously. 

Regardless to how you personally feel, the core home console entries of series like Final Fantasy and Zelda thrive in an environment of scarcity and anticipation. While they don't always make the right choices, pumping them out every year wouldn't make them the next Pokemon or Call of Duty, it'd see their long-term sustainability cut short. Seeing as both series continue to be made, their respective publishers clearly consider the overall process worth it. Nintendo and SE are seemingly unconcerned that neither series compares to the sale of one of the most successful and easily produced IP in the world  

Why ignore the handheld Zelda games? Where are the handheld FF games? The last mainline Zelda game released 3 years ago (that wasn't a remake/remaster). Like I said, Square is shooting themselves in the foot by ignoring the 3DS and now the Switch when it comes to mainline FF games. 

They aren't what drive the overall success of the IP. Zelda has more breathing room on this front than Final Fantasy (its core fanbase existing on the same general brand as the DS/3DS helps considerably), but even Zelda's handheld success is fuelled in large part by the reputation the core home console entries have given the series.

I do agree SE should be more proactive with the Final Fantasy IP on handhelds (though we no doubt disagree in what capacity), but that wasn't my point of dispute. It was using something like Pokemon to dismiss the viability of the development style of Final Fantasy (and by logical extension the core entries of Zelda, GTA, etc) that i take issue with.

To end off, it's worth noting that while SE could handle the Final Fantasy IP much better (and as far as I've seen they have improved considerably since the early 7th gen), it's not like they've been doing nothing but throwing money at FF15 for a decade. Whether ignoring the 3DS has been a mistake or not, the IP still has a strong WW presence. Especially in the last few years, it's been a debate more of success versus hypothetical extra success than sfailure versus success. There are worse places to be :p