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I'd guessed 2020 myself. But, will I upgrade in 2020? Probably not. I have a PS4 and a PS4 Pro, yet I still game mostly on PS3. Playing the last of us again on PS4 really wasn't all that appealing, as I'd beaten it on PS3 already. At least 4 times.

Tekken wont be on the console at launch, and probably not much anything else I'd be interested in. PS4 didn't really blow me away until last E3. Games we're still waiting for. But, who knows, if it's backwards compatible, and it should be, I may get it sooner.

I wonder if the PS5 Pro, and standard editions will be developed together... Or... it'll probably just have parts you can easily snap in or out of the console after removing a couple screws. Full PS compatibility better be one of the add-ons.