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ps4tw on 01 February 2017
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bdbdbd said:
ps4tw said:

You're still contradicting yourself! If the market labels a selection of customers as "casual", then that is what that selection of the market is called. You can't say the term is "just bs buzzwords created by the industry [that doesn't] mean much" when you acknowledge it actually refers to an entire market segment!! Just how exactly is it ambiguous and ever changing? Are you serious in saying "labels don't matter"? I'm guessing you don't know what a market segment is?

Also considering how many "forum dwellers" predicted the failure of the Wii U, maybe that highlights how out-of-touch Nintendo is with the modern gaming industry.

Your problem is the intepretation of casual. The casual gamer market exists, but the casual gamers market is the core market of the industry. These are the people who buy CoD and FIFA and the likes for the same reasons people watch the popular TV series or watch sports on TV.

No, the problem is your interpretation as it goes against what the market says it is. Let me quote Iwata:

“The Wii was able to reach a large number of new consumers who had never played games before by bringing hands-on experiences with its Wii Sports and Wii Fit. However, we could not adequately create the situation that such new consumers played games frequently or for long, consistent periods. As a result we could not sustain a good level of profit,” said Iwata.

“Moreover, regrettably, what we prioritized in order to reach out to the new audience was a bit too far from what we prioritized for those who play games as their hobby. Consequently, we presume some people felt that the Wii was not a game system for them or they were not willing to play with the Wii even though some compelling games had been released.”

Link here

So, it looks like the only person who thinks casual gamers are the ones who play CoD are you, whereas Iwata and the rest of the industry realise casual gamers are the ones who do not consider it a hobby and played it one off with games like Wii Sports and Wii Fit. 

 

bdbdbd said:
ps4tw said:

Er, what? Did you not read anything I wrote?

Let me repeat myself (with added emphasis):

I remember using blue shells and banana skins from "?" boxes while power sliding around a corner as Mario on Rainbow Road 20 years ago.Why can I still do EXACTLY just that?

Whereas you know what I can't do in the latest CoD? Grab a health pack while fighting off Germans with my Garand and I certainly haven't been able to shoot soldiers in zero-G in previous CoD's while deploying EMP grenades.

I did read what you wrote. I just failed to see your point because your comparisons make absolutely no sense. You can powerslide in the newest Mario Kart, just like you can shoot in the latest CoD. You have yet to point out how your EMP or health pack makes any difference. There's just new skin on a weapon.

Now you're just being obtuse. I described how I can recreate exactly what I did in Mario Kart 20 years ago in the latest Mario Kart game exactly, through each and every mechanic and type of map, whereas if you were to do exactly what you try to do in CoD 1 what has been done in Infinite Warfare, that would be impossible, and vice-versa.