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ps4tw said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

The whole hardcore/casual thing is little more than bs marketing terms made up by the industry to dsicredit Wii's success and to separate gamers into demographics in a shallow attempt to analyze sales. The only thing that matters is gamers/consumers vs non gamers/consumers. Sure, Wii did well with the "casual" market, but plenty of core and lapsed gamers also liked the console. People bought the thing. Whether "casual" or not, their money is as good as anyone elses.

The big question is will Switch attract more gamers? Jury is out, though I think it will. You have games like 1,2 Switch and Arms for the mass market, Bomberman and Tetris for the lapsed gamer, and Xenoblade, Mario, and Zelda for the core Nintendo gamer. You also have the appeal of the convenience of being a handheld, which could bring in a bigger audience.

Wii U mainly just appealed to the hardcore Nintendo fans. It was a Gamecube disguised as a Wii, with a crappy controller to boot and an overall weak library. I don't see any of these traits with the Switch.

Lmao wtf? Make your mind up. Does the casual market exist or not? You can't say it's "little more than bs marketing terms" yet two sentences later admit that "Sure, Wii did well with the "casual market"". 

Will the Switch attract more gamers? No, because Nintendo still does not see what gaming has become and now is desperately playing catch-up, shown by them trying to push Skyrim on the Switch, a game that is over 5 years old. No one will care about 1,2 Switch or Arms (why would they?), and only the Nintendo crew will bother buying it. The Wii U will have an extremely weak library because it will have very few quality third party titles thanks to the non-x86 architecture it has. 

What I'm saying, smart guy, is that Wii did well with what the market would interpret as "casual" but they did well with more than just those types, and those terms are largely just bs buzzwords created by the industry and don't mean much - as they are ambiguous, ever changing, and open to interpretation. At the end of the day, it boils down to attracting consumers or not. The labels don't matter. And I see a lot more value and appeal in Switch than I ever saw in Wii U, and I don't think I'm alone. Between the library, which already looks stronger than Wii U, the portability, and versatility, I don't see a scenario in which this console doesn't at least sell moderately more than the Wii U. The strength of a mainline Pokemon title alone almost ensures decent sales. A certain contingent of people (particularly the forum dwellers) seem to think the gaming world revolves around their tastes, and AAA western third party blockbuster type games that these people constantly eat up. It doesn't..

I love also that so many random forum dwellers think they know so much more than a multibillion dollar corporation. And I'm sure once Switch sells strongly these people are going to get creative yet again and come up with another way to discredit it, just like so many were proven wrong when they were absolutely convinced the Wii was going to be a horrible failure.. 



 

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