So Trump has already started messing up big time relationships with Mexico

[Mr Puggsly]

Player2 said:

Mr Puggsly said:

You don't just build a wall and the job is done. You build the wall and enforce existing laws, maybe go after sanctuary cities as well.

I keep explaining this to left wingers, the wall is just part of it.

On the other hand republicans seem to think that if Trump pisses off Mexico and Mexico stops going after the immigration mafia in their territory that bribes guards, hides immigrants in cargo, provides them with documentation, organizes wall jumps and more, it won't have a negative impact on the matter.

So we had Obama throwing out millions (criminal illegals), yet the illegal population is still massive and many come back in spite of being criminals. Maybe Mexico is doing a shitty job and we can't rely on them.

Security doesn't begin and end at the border. We have to do a better job enforcing existings laws, deal with those found in the country one way or another. As opposed to ignoring much of it.