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Neodegenerate on 25 January 2017
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zorg1000 said:
Neodegenerate said:

How is the 3DS compared to the consoles in those markets?  That is what I am speaking about.  I am not saying those markets aren't buying handhelds.  I am saying that they prefer the console.  Japan is the only of the "big three" markets that favors a handheld (NA, Europe, Japan).  That puts the Switch at a disadvantage for people who want a "pure" console experience and also puts the handheld market there off with such a poor battery life.

Edit: Also lets take a look at how the 3DS got to where it is.  It was dead on arrival in the US to the point where they dropped the price dramatically and gave away 10 VC games to those who bought at full price.  They have put out no less than 5 different iterations (standard, XL, 2DS, New 3DS, New 3DS XL).  Now you are asking people who wouldn't pay 269 for a 3DS to pay 299 for a new handheld that they can put on their TV.  Or a console they can carry around for a couple hours.  All while there are two established consoles that cost the same (and in some cases less) to bleed away the console crowd.

That is completely different from what you said originally,

"looking at how the Wii U did, we are able to project how we feel the Switch will do; especially in markets outside of Japan where the handheld piece isn't a major selling point"

3DS has sold 4x as much as Wii U outside of Japan which completely disproves your original statement.

Price was certainly an issue initally but it had alot of other things going against it, most notably a terrible post-launch software lineup, something that Switch does not have. As for multiple iterations, thats true for all handhelds and many consoles so that point is irrelevant.

It isn't the opposite of what I said at all.  What I am saying is the home console market for the Switch isn't really there based on the home console market as it stands today.  Neither of my posts invalidate that.  I am also saying that those who will buy it as a handheld, which is what you were presumably arguing with your 3DS point, will be hesitant to do so as they were with the 3DS outside of Japan at launch.

The Switch has a poor launch lineup (Zelda really being the only system seller) outside of Japan and the actual post launch support isn't known in full.  Which, I also said in a different post might swing my view.

The idea that the iterations is irrelevant though is remarkably short sighted and not true.  Look at the XB1S.  It has revitalized the XB1 in the US.  That is relevant because the initial Switch offering might just do poorly enough to require another iteration or an immediate price drop.  Especially given the price point and the history of those handheld people - that your posts indicate you think will flock to the device - not buying at that price.