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o_O.Q said:
h2ohno said:

'Thrown the concept into the dustbin?'  So why were wiimotes still supported throughout the Wii U's life cycle and why are the joy cons evolved the Wii concept?  For that matter, the Switch is very much an evolution of the Wii U. It's what the Wii U should have been in the first place.

Innovation involves some level of change from what came before.  It can be good or bad.  Simply evolving a concept is not innovative, otherwise games good be called innovative just for having better graphics than before.  The lock-on targeting system in Ocarina of time was innovative because it was a new solution which solved a longstanding problem.  The Wii was iinovative because it introduced a new way to play, regardless of whether that way of playing is still being used , today, which it is.

 

"The Wii was iinovative because it introduced a new way to play, regardless of whether that way of playing is still being used"

 

no innovation refers to changes that remain in whatever context the word is being invoked in and no i  don't consider about 2% of games using it in a meaningful way as support

 

" Simply evolving a concept is not innovative"

 

well actually yes that is what innovation is by definition

Miriam Webster definition of innovation.

  1. 1:  the introduction of something new

  2. 2:  a new idea, method, or device

funny.  i don't see any mention of evolution.  only new.
The business definition of innovation is somewhat different, apparently.  Business dictionary's divides the concept into both evolutionary and revolutionary categories.
1. Evolutionary innovations (continuous or dynamic evolutionary innovation) that are brought about by many incremental advances in technology or processes and
2. revolutionary innovations (also called discontinuous innovations) which are often disruptive and new.
It also adds "Innovation is synonymous with risk-taking and organizations that create revolutionary products or technologies take on the greatest risk because they create new markets."
Under the business definition, innovation can be both evolutionary and revolutionary, but it still involved taking risks.  Under the overall definition, it only applies to that which is new.
you are applying different standards and even then twisting the facts to meet those different standards.  Motion controls are here to stay and will continue to be used by Nintendo for many games, and they will be used for the other consoles as well.  And even if they really were being done away with, the disruption they caused in 2006 still fits the definition of an innovation to a tee