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irstupid said:
kitler53 said:

the wii sold like gangbusters by selling to a certain kind of casual.  the kind of casual that never played on a 3D gen console before (n64, ps1, ps2, xbox).  people that found consoles to be intimidating but found the wiimote to be inviting.  

i still remember that time i was at the store and the sales guy was trying to sell a older lady on a sonic game to which she said,.. "oh i dunno.  running and jumping.  i don't think i'm ready for that."

 

use whatever label you want to describe the audience that made wii successful.  that label of people aren't going to be attracted to the switch.

And I do not consider grandmas and soccer moms or whatever other group you want ot lump into that as casuals. They non gamers that were lured by some neat toy.

I'm talking about the millions of casual gamers who own a PS3/4 or 360/One. There are millions of them. Majority of every userbase is casuals. THis has nothign to do with soccer moms or grandmas.

That's just semantics. 

I think you know full well when people say "casual" on a message board like this they mean grandmas/soccer moms/"I don't like a game unless I can win in 5 minutes" types of people that if they are playing anything today it's largely smartphone apps.