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thismeintiel on 15 January 2017
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miz1q2w3e said:
thismeintiel said:

He's basically proving my point about some Nintendo fans only wanting them to stay in the HW biz out of pride and not what they bring to the market HW-wise.  There is little to no reason to believe Nintendo games would decrease in quality if they went 3rd party.  Unless, they are saying that Pokemon Go and Mario Run are utter shit.  Of course, they wouldn't say that, as I'm sure they think that they are among the better mobile games out there.

And Sega can't be brought into this, as when they quit HW, they were practically bankrupt and had lower budgets for games and kinda had to push whatever out to make money.  Nintendo is in a much better situation finacially, but are in the same HW situation.  It's not that their HW is crap, it just doesn't appeal to gamers, mainly due to lack of power and support from 3rd parties.  And, lately, Nintendo's reliance on control gimmicks to sell their HW.  It doesn't help that Nintendo has had a rough time adapting to HD, which has delayed most, if not all, of their games and has led to game droughts.  I could see the same thing happening to the Switch.

I agree about the pride thing, that probably has something to do with it. Me, I just want this to happen for selfish reasons. I want all my games, friends, and online subs (Nintendo has one now) on one machine.

I guess I'll admit, one downside for me is: there's less chance of some cool new thing, like how cool Wii was. I loved playing motion games with friends.

Regarding those games: I don't know/care if they're among the best mobile games, but I do know I don't like them. I tried to get into Pokemon Go, Miitomo, and also checked out videos of Mario Run. They're not for me, nor is mobile gaming in general. I dunno how that relates to this topic, though. And yeah, Nintendo is in a much better position that Sega was.

That's actually one of the reasons I hope they would actually go 3rd party and not full mobile.  If they go mobile they'll be focusing on casuals almost 100%, which means they'll most likely make their games smaller and more linear.  Or on autopilot with a few screen taps from the player.  Sure, they'll find success there, but 3rd party would allow them to continue making the games the same as they have been.  Only larger, if they wish, and with incredible graphics at 1080p/60 fps.  4K on Pro/Scorpio and next gen consoles.

LudicrousSpeed said:
thismeintiel said:

Well, glad it looks fun to you.  But, I highly doubt it will be successful.  Not with the ads I've seen for it.  Eating a hamburger?  Counting balls?  Only thing remotely interesting about it is the quickdraw, but most people are still going to rather play a video game on TV.  Even with the Wii, Nintendo knew this.  And definitely not $350 worth of content there.

As for Move, maybe you are missing my point.  Wouldn't be the first time.  I just said that MOTION CONTROLS ARE A GIMMICK AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING TIRED OF GIMMICKS.  Again, look at the failure of Wii U and Kinect for evidence. How does that translate to I want Nintendo to make Move games.  I'm just saying if they HAVE to make motion control games, there are options.  Personally, and I think most would agree (especially before the reveal), they just want Nintendo to make good games that don't force gimmicks into them.  Something they can definitely do as a 3d party.

Success is irrelevant to what I said. I said it looks fun, and would not be replicable on the other two consoles. Success doesn't matter. The Dreamcast wasn't a success yet was an amazing console filled to the brim with quality, innovative software. I am sure the latest Britney Spears album is a success, yet I'll still gladly say no thanks.

Wii U failed because of software and marketing, not gimmicks. Either way, not relevant to how fun the game looks or how possible it might be utilizing niche, optional extra hardware on other platforms.

They can make great games without gimmicks on their own platforms. They have each gen, no reason they won't this gen.

@ bold

Not true, but w/e. 

Interesting you name the Dreamcast.  Hmm, what happened after the Dreamcast?