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ICStats said:
Platina said:
What numbers are considered to be a flop and success though?

It's basically guaranteed to sell better than the Wii U


Wii U was a big flop, so beating the Wii U doesn't make it not be a flop.  GC level is still pretty weak.  If we're also talking about replacing the 3DS then the bar to not be a flop is that much higher.

Since it's a hybrid, I'd say to consider a success or a flop we'll need to look at things like if 3rd party stays or walks, or at Nintendo's overall financial picture.

I think it really depends on who you ask as well.  The Switch is entering uncharted territory with its design, so some people might judge it more or less leniently because of it.  Some people might think due to the fact that it (may) replace their handheld system that it should sell console + handheld numbers and therefore be even higher than XBO/PS4 numbers to be considered successful.  Some might say that due to its hybrid nature, the market would first have to get accustomed to the hardware before it will achieve higher sales (for example, maybe not the exact argument).  

Then there's what is expected by Nintendo itself.  They may not be aiming to sell as much as their competition and, therefore, reaching or surpassing their projections made prior to launch may be the level for it not to be considered a flop.  

Of course, as far as consumers are concerned, it would probably have to be between XBO and PS4 to not be considered a flop by many.

edit: Personally I think it will flop on at least two of these levels, but probably could succeed in being satisfactory for Nintendo.